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In my experience here, the "racial cliques" are a very poor source for balance, due to the bias inherent. Of all the racial cliques I've seen, the current main Vox clique is one of the most toxic, hence the sheer number of bans handed out. I don't particularly care what the self-appointed gatekeepers of the Vox think, based on how myself and the staff team have been treated by them, the lies spread, accusations of "promoting racism", and other such nonsense. Our most recent overhaul of Vox (when spaceproof was removed) resulting in a pretty disappointing reaction from the "community". Being that I'm being told of efforts to brigade and mass-downvote PRs on the github and protest OOC while in the IC environment, I'm not really eager to enable people for acting in such bad-faith. This is further complicated by the numbers of people who see themselves as "vox mains" and thus take anything against Vox - mechanics or lore etc - personally. I'm frankly too old to care about the opinions of people who can't separate their own identity from that of a fictional race in a niche online game. I'm not a therapist. On top of that, there's this false-solidarity, as if every member of the "vox community" agrees here. It's certainly not a monolith, based purely on the amount of people I have messaging me about their issues with said community and disagreements that they uncomfortable voicing around such toxic elements. People don't get any extra weight leant to their opinions because they've joined a discord full of banned players - quite the opposite, in fact. I'd like to assess each PR on it's own merits, rather than because of an active campaign by a vocal minority to push for it. This is not to say I don't think we should be continually trying to make every race - including Vox - better for the server. Thank you very much @Djvoid225 for bringing this up in a productive manner - a forum post and google doc is actually something solid and concrete I can work with, as opposed to random sniping on PRs and on discord. I'm hoping a shared space like this for people to work on, and see what ideas come about, will lead to some productive brainstorming and ideas. This is the correct way to do things that makes us take you seriously and listen to you. Feel free to DM me for any further discussion on this. Protesting ICly in front of the bridge or mass-downvoting other PRs in protest means that we will actively stop caring about your opinion. I'd love to have more unique, RP oriented features for all of the races is possible, without overly affecting game balance. But you shouldn't need mechanical features to RP. How drunk you act is up to you, you don't need mechanics for that. Following the Inviolate would be a very easy way to make vox more unique than they already are on the station, but that would require people actually RPing species lore and not just being generic shitbirds. The Organ thing @SteelSlayer mentioned could do with work for sure, it's so stupidly niche I think I've only ever had it be relevant once. I'm not at all attached to it as a mechanic. Brute damage, etc, is used as our easiest representation of "small and not good at combat". With us looking at various upcoming changes to combat, that kind of thing would be best to leave alone for now, as any tweaks would have to be retweaked again. Overall they could likely use some kind of buff to make up for the above malus, but by all indication Vox are a very popular race, and the priority on changing them is quite low compared to other areas. Small tweaks and additions would be best suited, rather than a complete overhaul akin to the removal of leap/spaceproof/etc.

Hi guys I just found this server and I am enjoying my time here!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, yeah, I remembered this is a thing so might aswell. Hi, am Woj. I'm from Poland. I play pretty much only Fiona Phillips, though I do take breaks from her, but still that's the character you've probably seen me play. I've been here since, I wanna say, May of last year? Time flies. I play this game mostly for roleplay, though in absence of people willing to do so, I like to greytide, 'cause who doesn't. As far as my spessmen experience goes, I've played a bit of ss13 under different ckeys in 2015-2016, then kinda stopped, and made a new BYOND account in 2020 to play here (because a friend from outside ss13, @Jabronio, asked me to), since I obviously did not remember my login information for pretty much throwaway accounts I made five years ago for a random 2D spessmen game. Pretty much had to re-learn the game, but I think I'm pretty ok now. Even got a cool orange name. I like playing security, command, and engineering, though I prefer roles within those departments where the workload isn't too big, so I actually get to roleplay. HMU icly if you like to roleplay we'll have a good time. Hobbies, uh, I have a decade of experience with roleplaying, mostly in the form of Pathfinder (a D&D clone) and D&D 3.5e, I've played a slew of other tabletop games aswell, but Pathfinder's the one I play consistently. I love worldbuilding and have my own fantasy setting I use for my campaigns - I am my group's designated eternal GM, since only I can navigate the absolute maze of a system that Pathfinder is. So if you ever wondered why my characters' records are walls of text, yeah, here's why - I'm a nerd who likes to write lore. Other than that, I enjoy cooking. Dunno what to say about cooking. Food tasty. I like all of it as long as it's prepared well. Except bananas fuck bananas. Outside of spessmen and hobbies I'm currently doing a masters in biotechnology, my thesis is about kale (I am pretty much specialized in plants, even more so in specifically in vitro plant tissue cultures). Eat kale, it's good for you, and only tastes bad if you don't know what to do with it, otherwise it's actually pretty great. My undergrad thesis was about lemons so uh, when life gives you lemons amirite? As you can see from the utter chaos of this post, I am not a very organized person.

Just a nice milestone for how much we have now.

mentor do blob evoluate without oxigen??

I have something I'd like to state in regards to the current tensions between the 'vox metaclique' and the staff of paradise station currently. Neither of our behaviors have been acceptable, and only serve to feed one another into a circle of unending fighting. It's childish, and both sides need to stop. The vox players feel unrepresented and try to strike out, the admins refute such ideas. This isn't a case of one is right and the other is wrong, and it's not that both sides don't have good points either. The vox need to stop whining about misrepresentation and 'racism' and the admins need to keep a sharper ear out and an open mind for just what they might actually have an issue with. The vox players know what they don't like about current balance, and are ready to propose ideas. It's an obligation of the admins to make sure their new 'balance changes' are balanced for everyone buy the end of it (while still making changes). Work with each other and please stop arguing about events out of this thread. Thank you all for your feedback so far, and the comments about my apparent maturity. I am going to kindly ask we keep all discussion, argument, or griping about the other side having opinions out of this discussion. This discussion is about suggesting and discussing change for a race. Not arguing about it's community or anything of that likeness. Don't come here to fight people picking fights or pick a fight with vox, this is a public forum. Don't come here to fight people picking fights or pick a fight with non-vox, this is a public forum. If someone says something you don't like, ignore it. This isn't the place to 'duke it out' or argue with someone cause they said something you like. This is a discussion post about making balance changes.

Giving me server rights was the best worst thing.

This is just flatly untrue, and an example of the kind of sniping I'm sick of. We take community feedback into account with all PRs. Sometimes we don't agree with it and make changes that are unpopular to 14 people who downvoted it. I'm in this thread, right now, talking to people and taking community feedback into account, for when I vote on future PRs that result from this. We're not an emojiocricy on the github. If you want to influence the decision process, you'll have to talk to the people involved in a constructive fashion and with good faith - OP is an excellent example of that. PRs being merged or not will never be determined by 14 people giving a thumbs up or down, however, and claiming because of that that feedback isn't taken into account is just disingenuous.

TBH this seems the simplest and quickest solution.

remove the projectile and it'll barely be used anymore, people are just using it as a laser tag surrogate

The fact that a niche feature with no impact on balance can generate this much discussion is already a problem. If some people feel uncomfortable with it and find it a problem, then it should just be removed. This mechanic isn't worth making the game actively worse for others, even if they are a minority.

Will make this post have all related art of Jim Tate. Enjoy! Tea addict rockin' in a bowler hat Bishop Cybernetic Arm Contribution to the "Draw your stickman" challenge

I know how this looks, but I swear! It wasn't me! It was just impeccable timing is all!

Fiona learns about octopi

Captain, why didn't you hear what I said over comms? Because this is happening on the other side of the bridge windows

First round as ascended sling, this is the result.

Ever noticed how the bridge looks like it's eating ai upload ? Also, grey army

When you ask atmos if what they're doing is safe

The sec train making a stop at clownville for a little disarming conversation.