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I apologize in advance for how harsh this sounds coming across. I'm a little worried about the state of this discussion. It's been quite some time now since Delta and Meta were added to rotation and in this thread we're still bandying about fundamental questions that I think should have been answered definitively before mappers invested hundreds of collective hours building and refining them: Do players want new maps? Do we want to encourage players to play new maps? These facets of the discussion have been done to death: Change aversion is inevitable Voting being biased by vocal minorities/indifferent participants is inevitable The new maps are not getting the chance to improve that they deserve People are spending actual time, energy and passion building these maps Players should not have new maps forced on them if they don't want them An exchange I remember showing up during one of the countless discussions on IPC emergency kits was: - "Surely the number of people who expect this says something about the validity of the change?" - "The problem is with those players' expectations." I think we should consider strongly how much we should weigh community expectations regarding map rotation. We don't choose game type just because players demand a round be extended or wizard. I'd much rather have the choice be random, but if we are dead set on receiving player input: I say keep the map vote, but only use player votes as an input for weighing the random choice. That way the people who do vote, and thus care about what map they play next, have a slightly greater chance of having their vote count, but not so much that it completely overrides the result for people who don't vote. I'm sympathetic to this because that's how I feel about Tarkov. But ultimately SS13 is a game that changes *constantly*, like a dozen PRs every couple of days. You also shouldn't feel any stress or pressure to learn new maps by heart within a certain timeframe or to be specifically productive. If you're lost on a map, your character is probably simultaneously also lost, and there's nothing wrong with that.