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Drip is VERY important, id rather wear a nice blue mailman uniform than a red one as sec, and i much perfer to wear a white labcoat as a forensic tech, both choices make me less of a target and look nice. Forced uniforms can be a thing on a HOS by HOS basis just like any other department, but an SOP line MANDATING such an act i feel would work to the detriment of peoples experience. As for undercover officers: Its a legitimate tactic, so i dont see why it would be removed. It seems almost like alot of antags feel entitled to as little resistance as possible during any action they may take, be it a civilian pulling someone to safety, a legitimate act of workplace self defence from co-workers or an officer who hid in a potted plant or locker to jump the bad guy at the right moment or even something as minor as a random civ just being in the wrong place at the wrong time by complete chance, and they just happened to run into them, slowing them down for only a second or 2, but that being all it took for security to catch up and nab them As an antag, expect the unexpected, plan for failure and roll with the punches

I've had some great experiences playing as an undercover detective. My fellow seccies mistook me for a civilian and arrested me for trespassing into the brig 10/10. (I had a civ ID with detective access, put the sec encryption key in a normal headset, etc etc). But don't overdo it imo. I see no reason why this should be prohibited through SOP. If properly RP'd/played, it can add to the round. Perhaps there should be something in SOP that requires written authorization of the captain/HoS for an officer/detective to go undercover. And also make them NOT allowed to perform arrests. Just reconnaissance. The authorization form should be kept secure in the HOS/captain's office cabinet. Preferably both.

Ive experienced undercover cop from both sides a had great experience, so i can say it can be very interesting and engaging for all parties if done right. However i can agree that its pretty damn abusable and unfair quite a lot of the times. For sure support going undercover being against sop in normal circumstances. Not a big fan of mandatory uniform, drip is important

Hello!! my characters name is Freya Bintop and she is a bundle of joy She is a human that was the desire to help everyone on the ship meet their needs Her personality is quite bubbly and happy go lucky though she does take her job seriously, Freya will do any course of action to make everything go smoothly you will be seeing me in medical as a therapist (maybe future doctor if i am comfy enough to learn!) or a librarian i am very excited to meet fellow players!

I'd definitely like to see mandatory IDs But drip IS important. And default jumpsuits, while they can work, they do not always do that. An alternative I'd like to present - SOME clothing related to the job must be worn. For example, secoff could ditch the jumpsuit but wear a beret, CMO could ditch the jumpsuit but wear the labcoat, captain could ditch everything but wear the sword, detective/blueshield could ditch everything but wear their unique armor. It'd be less intrusive while having a similar effect. Edit: This could also give armbands and badges more usage, for security at least.

Undercover sec is something I never want. It has zero upsides other than mechanical advantage, and is overall damaging to damaging to the antag/sec dynamic. Granted, it is rare, but even so it'd be nice to have it disallowed in Space Law/SOP/Whatever instead of an honor rule between command/sec. Perhaps throwing in there that officers have to wear /something/ pertaining to their department, instead of dressing up in all grey to make an antag doubt its an officer at first glance (even a seconds hesitation could make a difference) would be a positive change.

Heya! Always glad to see new faces around! Can't wait to meet them in game, they seem very cool!!!