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...gloppers... 100% no obsession here

It's THEM! Gloppers. ...and. Yes.

i know. i know. i swear. there's something else soon. i promise...... I PROMISE.......

Miner main decides to try music Hm, I think I'll have Diona today And here ladies and gentlemen, this is why we should trust unknown portals I was a mother dragon, and this was too funny not to SS Advanced Mining Arriving with ZERO context! A 20 for mice! This one was when I first started to try mining, bunch of fellow nerds decided to give lavaland a shot I will forever love blueshield for the weird shit you just see A nations shift I decided to join. I was the RD, it was very fun. A moth shot me ONCE with a disabler 4 no ruson. So I decided this was proper revenge. I have a few more SSes of other funny things, but I think I'll save those for when I have another dozen screenshots

Have you ever been given whole CCTV lawset as a personal AI before? Well, now I have been.

I'm done. I give up. The entire point with the way I wrote my post was trying to avoid that, and you're still maintaining, three posts later, that I'm finger pointing. I'm going to take a long break, and when I come back, if I come back, I'm not going to participate in the forums or on the Discord. You've successfully ignored the entire point of the thread. You win. Bye.

Okay... wow. That's a lot to unpack here. Let me see if I can do my best to not sound like an asshole, but generally this post comes off not like a rebuttal, but as if you skimmed it and missed most of my points. I'll clarify as best I can in brief. I didn't request a non-response. That was probably the number one thing I made clear in my post, and I'm a little disappointed you eschewed that and am trying to paint me as publicly excoriating you and demanding you just sit there and take it. That would have been stupid, the post was made publicly so that the exchange, if there was to be one, could be transparent and offer both the administration a chance to reply as much as other users to reply, for or against the point. I made an acknowledgement that you don't owe me anything and that you can ignore the post and go on with your life without offending me or appearing like you're just sweeping it under the rug. I know the entire team has busy lives. So do I. That's why I said you didn't owe me a reply. That's fair. But if you're declining someone's application to join the team with a reason, it's important to let them know at least clearly or critically why. More on this in your response below. This is all very valid. I'll point out again, nobody required you to respond, now or later. But if the administrative staff are overloaded to the degree they're noting hundreds of players a month per admin, perhaps broadening the ranks further might be in order. But again, I'm going to point out that I made a specific point that I realize trying to have an intellectual debate with players in SS13 is a fool's errand, but trying to maintain that warning players they're breaking the rules is simply too much to expect of a server's administration is a non-starter. It flies in the face of how administrating a community works. If you're at the level where warning a player they're breaking the rules is too much to demand of your staff, you're either overworking your staff or your players are running rampant. Banning players outright as your sole form of enforcement isn't an approach that takes workload off of your admins, it creates more - you're now placing them in a position where they are in fact obligated to reply, or have someone else reply, often multiple times outside of the game on top of their moderation duties in game. The vast majority of your appeals are very simple "read the rules, say the phrase" bans that could have been averted with a warning. And just a thought - just as you don't owe me a reply, you don't owe a player a conversation over a warning. You don't owe them a warning, either, but if you're taking the time to note it, a gentle nudge won't take more than a few seconds, and could potentially save you a multiple week long appeal and added workload. Again, take it or leave it, it's your server and you don't need to justify to me why you're making your choice. It's just food for thought. You're right. I'm not. So why bother with one in the first place if you're not going to provide it? The headmin could just as easily have responded with "We've reviewed you application and at this time have decided not to move forward. You're more than welcome to reapply on the next round." Coming at me with "Don't post shit like this" most definitely not only guarantees I won't be reapplying, it paints you in an extremely negative light. I didn't say or do anything in here that invited that kind of disrespect. I'm not trying to use this to get back at you for rejecting me, only a child would post something like this and expect to have any hope of having a better chance. I didn't ask you for a complete rundown, but giving players a clue what they're doing wrong is pretty essential if you want them to be better players, let alone potentially staff to help distribute the workload in the future. If you're going to do something, do it right - either clue them in or just flatly deny the application. If you explain to them why they're being rejected and they get snitty about it, that's on them; but if you give them vague notions that they're out of line and leave them guessing, it'd make anyone feel like shit. It'd be like me making this thread and then just vaguebooking at you that I have criticisms about the process but not telling you what they are instead of just not posting or elaborating on it. I really don't like the "posting shit like this" bit - I really don't think I deserved that, and I'm going to try to give you the benefit of the doubt given you've had a long day and sat down to reply in a bad state of mind. That was really uncool, man, but I'm going to try to take you at face value that you mean well and move on. I'm going to level with you - I posted this here for the same reason that your unban appeals and admin complaints sections are visible to the public. I don't think you'd be criticizing them for DMing the staff to discuss it instead of posting it there. Nobody says that they have to be visible, but they are, for a reason, transparent. It removes any doubt about how your team handles objections to staff conduct or penalties applied to them and fosters a better image of your team while putting to the sword shitters that talk about admin abuse in other communities and such. I'm sorry that I made you feel like I'm passing judgement upon you, I'm not. I'm sorry I made you feel like I'm assuming I know better - I might, I might not. But again, perhaps the one thing i outlined the most in my post is "You can take my advice or leave it, it can be founded or unfounded, but you don't owe me a justification." This isn't Martin Luther nailing objections to your door, I'm just outlining the impression that I got, how it made me feel, and why I think it happened and how it could be improved in the future. You could embrace it, have your own private conversation about it, or ignore it. But I really wasn't expecting someone to come at me sideways for it. Perhaps I am assuming why I was rejected - but then again, perhaps not. I think, if you look back on this post, you can maybe glean an idea why that may be. And again - nobody's saying you need to have an intellectual debate, neither in applications not in warnings. They can ahelp back and scream into the void all they want, and if they're incredibly pissed about it they can come to the forums and get a flat response that they're out of line and the thread can be closed. Nobody says you have to give more time than you already are to these people beyond making them aware they're breaking the rules so that hopefully, in the future, it doesn't end up with a much more laborious appeal that has to be checked on multiple times outside of the game. Honestly, you might be right, I'm not sure what I expected posting this, but it definitely wasn't this. I'm sorry you had a long day, and I mean it genuinely when I say I hope you feel better. I do have a profound respect for the time the team dedicates to the game. It's why I applied to help, even if you think I'm not a good fit. I work a full time job, too, some shifts 16 hours as we're short staffed. It's a lot to moderate SS13. Trust me, you might know better, but I know. This isn't passing judgement, this isn't a demand for answers, this isn't me trying to get one over on you for rejecting my application. It's a 2D spaceman game about farts, not grand subterfuge or high court and tea. But can you maybe understand that this is a, founded or unfounded, suggestion in the suggestions forum based upon my observations, perspective, training, and experience; and that I've invited you to reflect upon it and accept it, reject it, or ignore it entirely at your leisure? I could be totally off-base... but that's also something that you could look at and understand why I'm in a position to be so far off the mark. Maybe I'm an idiot for presenting it so seriously, but I'm being genuine. I'm sorry if I made you feel otherwise, but generally, that's what it is. I really, truly mean it when I say get some rest, and I hope you feel better.