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You have that already. They are called Internal Affairs Agents, Magistrate, NanoTrasen Representative and Captain. And Head of Security, for that matter. Creating an entirely new department for the sake of overseeing a specific department will not really address the issues raised here.

There is no substance to this thread, nor any semblance of a "point" in what the OP wrote. This discussion is pointless.

And again, if most players do not know about it, adding MORE regulations will not help it. This is very much a case of "This is already here", with a lot of people either not pursuing it, or not knowing about it. Going on about how pursuing the issue would not solve it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. ^^ Basically this. Be the change you want to see.

We can add "only"s everywhere. It will still be an IC issue that needs to be taken up with an IAA/Rep/Magistrate.

26. May not scribble words on the side of my revolver and then start calling it those names; 27. May not requisition higher caliber weaponry because "the clown is exceptionally annoying today."; 27a. May not replace "clown" with any member of Security or Command, regardless of how true it may be; 28. I do not have access to the Bridge, regardless of how relevant my portfolios may be; 29. May not weave further Kevlar into my assigned coat; 30. Just because I can drink the Bartender under the table, does not mean I should; 31. The Coroner is my best friend, not "the weird corpse guy"; 32. May not mock any Vox accent; 32a. May not refer to Vox as "chickens", "space roosters" or "bipedal turkeys" either; 33. "Get an empty jug" is not an appropriate response when being informed of a Slime Person murder; 34. May not use Vulpkanin personnel as impromptu K-9 units; 34a. Even if they suggest it and bring their own leash; 35. May not use Tajaran personnel as night vision devices either; 36. May not request a "triple ration of the best cigs in the whole fucking universe" from Cargo; 37. Ian is not a hat rest; 37a. Neither is Araneus, even if it looks adorable; 38. May not refuse to investigate a break-in of the Clown Office on account of it belonging to the Clown; 39. May not have a "hat-off" with the Mime; 40. "TLC" is, oddly enough, not in the job description of the Brig Physician; 41. May not dare the Warden to put on the entire Armory; 42. Even if company policy allows it, may not turn on my Noir Glasses and then proceed to narrate everything in the third-person; 42a. May not do the same with the Noir Glasses turned off; 43. My Agreeable Glasses have a single use for a reason, and I should not have Robotics remove the limiter for the sake of making shitty puns; 44. May not taunt Kida Officers with Flashes; 44a. May not make moth jokes with flashlights either; 45. May not give prisoners candy; 46. The Permabrig should not be used for "Ultimate B-Ball Showdowns"; 47. May not refer the Psychologist for arrest on account of being "criminally insane"; 47a. Even if it happens to be perfectly true; 48. May not add "Potentially Dangerous" on the Sec Records of every Research Director I see; 49. The AI is not my sidekick; 49a. Even if they want to be; 49b. Especially if they want to be; 50. I may no longer play Clue with the Librarian in the Kitchen

Because I can rip off myself, goddamnit! 1. May no longer open fire on any Head of Security, Warden or Security Officer without at least Captain-level authorization, regardless of how many lives and sane minds it may save; 2. Banana peels are not "absolutely certain incriminating evidence" against Clowns, and I should remember my Clowndom Sensitivity Training classes; 3. May not trick any Cargo personnel into providing lethal .357 rounds; 3a. Exception is made during any large-scale assault on the station, provided I return the casings afterwards; 4. Cult of Nar-Sie materials may not be auctioned off to the highest bidder; 4a. Doubly so if NanoTrasen sees none of the profits; 5. May not engage in a "coat-off" with the Blueshield; 6. My hat does not grant me "+3 Style", and I should not try to prove it is better than the Captain Hat; 6a. Even if it is; 7. May not use my forensic scanner to prove the Bartender is watering down their drinks, regardless of how justified I am; 8. May not shove the Blueshield down disposals for coming into my office unannounced; 9. I am required to present full reports on my forensic investigations, not post-its saying "X totes did it, I swear"; 10. Any jokes related to "Jonah Dark" are expressly forbidden, under penalty of hat removal; 11. Regardless of how much people seem to like it, no fraternizing during work hours; 11a. Even if people say it is fine; 11b. Especially if people say it is fine; 12. Even if I have access to it, may no longer walk into Medbay without informing the medical staff; 13. Corpses do not make good lighters, regardless of how flammable they may be; 14. I am issued a Zippo Lighter for a reason, and should not, under any circumstance, be using a welder as a substitute; 14a. Even if it wins me a thousand credits in a bet; 15. May not make necklaces out of vampire teeth; 16. May not request a "Changeling Eye Transplant" because I want to have thermal vision; 17. May not default to accusing the Mime of any crime I have no leads on; 18. I am issued a shoulder holster for a reason, and holding sandwiches is not it; 19. May not refer to the Brig Physician as "Lead Harmbaton Band-Aid"; 19a. Even if they find it funny; 20. The Research Director is not to be considered immediately guilty of any explosion I happen to hear; 21. Active stunbatons do not make good backscratchers, and I should not be telling new Officers that; 21a. I am, however, to report any Officers who fall for this to the Head of Security; 22. May not refer to anyone in Security as a "Sec Monkey"; 22a. May not refer to them as a "Sec Chimpanzee" either; 22b. Or any other simian appellation; 23. "Seven and a half pints of the black stuff" is not proper procedure for three gunshot wounds to the chest; 24. May not twirl my revolver in between my fingers to "look cool as shit"; 25. May not alter the Security Records in order to "make that Warden go away"

I. Fucking. Dare you. To prove that statement correct.

476. Why, and how, is this list still going on? 477. I will no longer take long, unscheduled trips to active warzones in order to peddle my wares; 477a. Nor may I do so with NanoTrasen's wares; 478. Mullets are not, and never have been, standard issue, and I may not try to change this; 479. High-Explosive Ordnance is not an adequate means of garbage disposal; 479a. Even if it works; 480. The on-station trash compactor may not be used to make "High-Density Chocolate Muffins"; 480a. Nor may it be used to save up money on coffins; 480b. I will report to the Ethic Committee, then submit to psychiatric evaluation; 481. May not teach Poly how to swear in seventeen different languages, regardless of how much it swears already; 482. Likewise, may not teach new interns how to swear in seventeen different languages when I am supposed to be teaching them how to handle inter-species communication; 483. Just because I am now given combat boots does not make me an ERT Operative, regardless of how much I beg for it; 484. Berets are mandatory. This is non-negotiable; 485. Following multiple complaints by other Communications Officers, I am to use my new ration of Q-Tips to properly clean my ears; 486. May not tap into the on-site Security radio channel and mimic the voice of known Syndicate operatives; 486a. May not pass it off as a Changeling prank either; 487. On-site surgeons are highly trained medical professionals worthy of my respect, and should therefore not be referred to as "Butchers"; 488. May not give the Botanists a briefcase full of bees; 488a. May not give them a trunk full of bees, either; 488b. May not give the Botanists bees, period; 488c. Access to bees revoked; 489. While hilarious, may not encourage the Chaplain to worship the "Holy Airlock"; 490. May not confiscate any Null Rod Weapon from the Chaplain on account of wanting a "really bitchin'" chainsaw; 491. No matter what the General Quartermaster says, the Clown does not need a double ration of extra-slippery bananas; 492. Bottles of sulphuric acid do not make good "pranks"; 492a. Even if the Bartender is a Grey; 493. May not make Coffee the Crab the Captain, regardless of whether or not they would be more competent than the current one; 494. May not encourage the Head of Security to steal the Antique Laser Gun because "The Captain ain't gonna need it anyway"; 495. May not encourage personnel to use Diona Gestalts as sources of maple syrup; 496. When my list of workplace infractions is larger than some crew records, I should probably reconsider the way I go about things; 496a. This does not mean I should redouble my efforts at committing workplace infractions in order to break non-existent records; 497. May not refer to the CEO as "Timmy", especially not within earshot of literally anyone; 498. May not request a Shadowling specimen so I have "someone to snuggle with at night"; 498a. I am to get a life; 499. Sex-Ed, while useful, is not part of the Standard Curriculum for Skrell personnel, and I should not be asking for demonstrations; 500. May not throw jelly babies at Slime People in the hopes of creating a "mythical Rainbow Slime"

My heart. It melts. Halp.

18 delicious chips!

I mean, that said, most armored clothing offers decent protection against most damage types, and even specialized bulletproof armor offers some Stab Vest-style protection. Its all about knowing when to break out what.

That was the snowflaking I was referring to. Most coats are, code-wise, included in the same category, and the only values that change are the armor ones. You would have to individually disallow the use of these vest underlays for each individual piece of armored clothing. Granted, there are not THAT many of them, but its still a bit of a sloppy implementation that falls a bit short of maintenance guidelines. It would be easier if "armored" coats were a separate category of clothing altogether, but, to the best of my knowledge, they are not, so a blanket "no vests here" would simply not work.

16 merry lambchops.

Every single piece of clothing in the game has some sort of armor value, no matter how minute it may be. Depending on what coat you are using, the cumulative armor values can go anywhere between just what the vest offers (in case of unarmored clothing) to hilariously broken super-armor (in case of anything Security can use as coats). And if the higher armor value is to overwrite the lower one, not only would that kinda miss the point on having two layers of protection, but would also require some heavy snowflaking if you want to have it overwrite just SOME items.

As requested, and due to the lack of any meaningful point being reached:

I... will not touch this, as it would need me to go look at the logs and see exactly what was said. While simple kissing is permitted, anything that could potentially carry a more powerful sexual undertone would infringe on the ERP rule. And yes, kissing does entail sexual arousal. It is commonly seen as a very intimate physical gesture. While some greytiding is not against the Server Rules, the Administration can and will call out players who are acting in a blatantly disruptive manner. As detailed in the "Self-Antagging" Server Rule, it is not your job to cause chaos and create extra work for Security, and if the round was particularly chaotic, going around releasing people from the Shuttle Brig falls into that category. Not entirely sure what you mean by this, so I will take both possible meanings: 1) Faking complaints via fax to get someone fired is dickish, and being a right asshole, especially if you are targeting key personnel for no reason and have nothing to back it up, and falls under the "Maintain a respectful environment" Rule if stretched enough. Do not do it; 2) Filing a false Adminhelp will get you into massive trouble for trying to get someone else into trouble under false pretenses. Do not do it I was the one handling this particular case, and it fell square into "Play the Role you have chosen". We expect our Command Staff to be more competent than the average player, and not make round-altering decisions based on shoddy evidence. I cannot speak for the circumstances, but you also have: a) A stunbaton; b) A flash; c) A taser; d) A can of pepperspray Now, if all these options were invalidated, sure. But lethal force is a last resort, not a first/middle one. We have always enforced "Stick to your objectives" when it comes to Antagonists. And we have always made a point that random chaos is not permitted without either the Hijack objective or Admin permission. Which is clearly stated in the "Antagonist" Rule

*Points at ERP Server Rule*

It will be recorded.

I have since added Civil Disputes to Legal Standard Operating Procedure. It is currently in its trial period. Hopefully, this will work out. If not, well, oh well. Please contact me or Necaladun for any proposed change to it.

The main issue I have about this is that it is already fully possible for you to do this, without the whole bureaucratic process. I am not certain if laying down framework for actual civil disputes would be a positive addition, because not only would that tie down even more resources during even more time, it may actually discourage people from getting involved. Sure, it will be used when its novel, but when a third of the station wants to complain about the other two thirds, then you have a massive backlog that will most likely NOT be solved unless the Magistrate does nothing but civil disputes all shift long.

This can be adequately done via a PDA and use of a radio.

As much as I can relate, giving Officers something like this to wave around would lead to far, FAR more abuse than actual enforcement of its intended use. Otherwise, there would have to be a defined special guideline on JUST THIS CRIME, and I am not in any rush to bloat Sec paperwork even more than I already have.

No injunctions, ever. Not about to give ANYONE the legal right to go "This annoys me personally, stop or be punished".

Graffiti hurts no one. It would be incredibly dickish for people to be arrested because they coated the station with graffiti.

Bay can afford to have such a complex system because: 1) They have longer rounds; 2) They are a lot more focused on RP than mechanical gameplay; 3) Their crime rate is 1-2 crimes per round Their system would NEVER work here.