VampyrBytes

As an fyi, the spacepod code is still in the work in progress section of the code, and the code's from a different branch. This makes it very unlikely any coder's going to start playing around with it as any changes would lead to conflicts with updates the original coder makes. So stuff like the aviators and the cigars could be done, but no changes to the actual pod code are likely until it's moved from work in progress

You're underestimating shadowcloak. If it only worked in darkness it wouldn't be much use, as no-one can be seen in darkness without a light source. knock out a single light bulb and people can see just fine, but you've got a patch of shadow you're invisible in. Yes, Vox's leap is strong, but it's their only real advantage. You're talking about giving then natural armour, vampire sight and immunity to xeno/ling toxins as well, with the only real downside being the same as a Vox's, the breathing, the others being thins that wouldn't really disadvantage them (btw, the alcohol thing would be tricky as there isn't an alcohol chemical in the code, just certain drinks having certain side effects)

While I can see what you're trying to do, creating something to balance aliens, but will be available in all rounds just unbalances things even further. I've played a lot of geneticist, and if I'm a traitor and find shadow cloak, unless I've got something like hijack the shuttle, I'm very likely to fulfill my objectives. For a triator to start with it rather than have to find it is a scary thought. Oh, and people very rarely have flashlights on unless they're in maintanence. From the other side, if you've got a sec guard with it, then the antags are in real shit... target located, coast clear, go in for the kill, oh shit, where'd that sec come from??? Making them high cost doesn't make them balanced either, especially as everyone would want one and start saving up. Eventually they'd be as common as other karma races, maybe more common as people would want this over the others so wouldn't buy the others

As for just doing a revert, it's been too long now. There will probably have been other changes made that rely on the code being as it was after the original change to IPC's, and then other changes that rely on those changes etc Don't get me wrong, I do understand your frustration with the issues from a player point of view. I'm just trying to explain why it's not as simple from a coder's point of view

That's an oxymoron. How so? You guys popped the code in for them dying in suits one morning real quick.... then just stopped on them. Popping the code in is a very different thing to writing the code to pop in. The way it works is that the coder will spend hours/days or longer writing the code. They'll then test it as best they can on their private server. Once they've done all that they upload it to Ponies' github. He then pulls it into the existing code, compiles it, and restarts the server using the newly compiled code. From your point of view the new features 'pop in' to the game, from the coder's point of view it's definitely not that quick. And the oxymoron is the 'quick code session', because even when you think they will be quick they never end up that way

Yes, it would be bannable. Unfortunately that wouldn't stop it happening. Shuttle grief is bannable too, and yet I'm betting you've seen plenty of that, I know I have... hell, I've seen it plenty even when the admins have said in ooc that any shuttle grief will lead to a ban as the shuttle arrives. Unfortunately there's times when we can't have nice things because there are people who will misuse them. The only way around this would be to have drones as a karma job, and I'm likely to get lynched for even mentioning that possibility.

Yeah, unfortunately any drone communication with the AI would end up being abused eg - drone sees murder in progress which it should ignore... how many will ping the AI who then looks to see what's going on?

Whilst I love the telecomms scripting too, in general there isn't enough to do to warrant a separate job. There's also the fact that writing scripts often involves bugs, and people are going to get annoyed with you if you keep bugging out the comms system. My suggestion is to use a local server to write the scripts on and play around with it, save your scripts in documents on your computer, then use them at appropriate times on the live server. That way you get the fun of playing around with the system in a way that won't annoy people and still get to see the effects and reactions on the live server

Could we get a sub forum under bug reports for coders to ask people to test things / try and break things? Or even just feedback on the changes. Whilst all good coders will test their code to the best of their abilities, there's some situations where there's just too many possibilities for the coder to test. In these cases is would be better to ask the people who frequent these boards to try and find problems with the code rather than wait for one of them to stumble across it and post it in the bug reports. For example, I'm currently working on cooking names. Having fixed the deep fryer, cereal maker and grill (anyone set the kitchen on fire yet?) I'm now doing situations where you get .....sandwich sandwich sandwich. I'm nearly there and obviously I'll do some testing, but there's so many different possibilities it would take me hours to test them all. It would be far easier for me to challenge people to come up with the worst named item they can

Another chucklehead that plays some spotlight heavy role and gets all the karma, stepping down from their pedestal on high to put the low karma commoners in their place. I got enough karma to unlock slime people while I was only playing the geneticist, and they spend the majority of their time shut away in their lab, really not in the spotlight. It's not what you play, it's how you play it... and I've never played anything like a nutjob.

I agree with this. Last time I was an antag I ahelped to ask permission to do something that wasn't on my objectives. I was left unsure which to put it under as it was a question but I needed an admin's response, not a mentor's

Yeah, as I said, I'm not about to try and teach people to code from scratch. As long as you read the first part of the guide on what to do if someone uploads a malicious script you're good. I will start updating the wiki next week, and will try and cover some of the more basic stuff in that. The AI one can just be copied and pasted into the common server edit code window, so you don't need to understand it to use it. If anyone has an idea for a script but can't code it themselves let me know and I'll see what I can do

Mine was to be immune from harm. It worked... I even survived the bomb on the shuttle, until an admin spotted me and gibbed me. Straight after making my wish undead turned up on the station

At some point I'll probably take you up on that Fj. At the moment I'm focussed on medbay stuff, but I'll let you know if/when I do want to learn atmos Back on thread, here's a script for all you AI's. Don't you just hate that you can't access the different channels in the same way as people with earpieces? Well, here's the solution. I couldn't use the : as the game automatically strips the first 2 characters from a message if it's the ai and it starts with :, so we're using @ instead. So it's @c for command, @m for medical, ect. It's fully annotated so you can see what's going on and make changes if you want def searchVec($vector, $string) { $index = 1; $found = 0; $test = ""; while ($index <= length($vector) && $found == 0) { $test = at($vector, $index); if ($test == $string){$found = $index;} $index += 1; } return $found; } def initialise () // so the vector doesn't have to be set up each time { $codes = vector("@e", "1357", "@n", "1351", "@m", "1355", "@s", "1359", "@c", "1353", "@u", "1347"); // set up a vector with each code to access the channel followed by the channel frequency $initialised = 1; mem("codes", $codes); // stores the vector in memory mem("initialised", $initialised); // this is so we can check easily whether this has already been run } if (tonum(mem("initialised")) != 1) {initialise();} // If the codes aren't already in memory, run initialise if ($job == "AI") // Makes sure only the AI can use this { if (substr($content, 1, 2) == "@") // only runs if the first character is @ { $channel = substr($content, 1, 3); // gets the first 2 characters of the message $codes = mem("codes"); // gets the codes vector from memory $find = searchVec($codes, $channel); // searches for $channel in the codes vector if ($find != 0) // if the code has been found { $freq = tonum(at($codes, $find + 1)); // change the frequency of the message to the correct one $content = substr($content, 4, length($content) + 1); // strips the first 3 characters (the code and space) from the message } } }

Actually, I've been on for 2 custom events in the last 2 days. The first was based on the corrupt a wish thread in cilvilian days - there were 2 'wish granters' that had been smuggled aboard by the wizard federation and each granted one wish to each person who used it, with some unforeseen consequences - I loved it when one person wished for ultimate power and got turned into an AI The other was a 'tame' alien queen starting off in Xeno with an NT instruction to find a way of using it to make plasma. Unfortunately, when she had children, they weren't so tame For me to see 2 in 2 days means they have really increased the number of custom events an awful lot... I used to see about one a month. Bear in mind that it's not just a case of picking people to do events. They have to know for sure they can trust the person with the admin powers - the last thing you want is an admin who gets pissed off and starts griefing. Then that person also has to be willing to be an admin - which means a) you're going to be spending a fair amount of your play time dealing with ahelps and griefers and b) you'll never have any sense of mystery and excitement yourself, as you'll always know what the round type is and who the antags are.

Ok, I'm going to start this guide with the reason I'm writing it. I've been teaching myself some of the less well known aspects of ss13. To teach myself Tcomms scripting I set myself a fun challenge - write a script that each time someone spoke changed the name of the person speaking, and changed the message to a random panic message or a urgent call for help. So, I wrote the script, learning pretty much everything about tcomms as I went, and eventually got it working, and working well. So today was the first time I was an antag since I wrote it. I ahelped for permission to upload it, was given it, ordered an emag, and headed out to the tcomms satellite, uploaded and executed it. First few messages it didn't change as it had to collect names. Then the chaos started. This was about 20 minutes into the round. Within 5 minutes the shuttle was called :cry: Someone got onto a station bounced radio and pointed out that someone had hacked tcomms - Ah, I thought, now they'll go and fix it and recall the shuttle... nope. Then I realised.... no-one actually knew how to fix it. The script was still running when the shuttle docked at centcom. So, I'm going to start off by explaining what to do if some git does what I did and uploads a malicious script. Go to the telecoms control room. All scripts run on the telecommunications traffic control computer, so that's the one you want. When you click on it, it shows the network it's connected to and a list of servers on that network. The only network (afaik) is tcommsat so make sure this is in the network part, then scan for servers. You'll get a list of all the servers(channels) available. Click on one will give you the options of editing the code and toggling between having the code run either always or never. setting it to never will disable any script running on it... beneficial or malicious. Job done. To make sure it doesn't get started again, click the edit code button and delete any code in there. To upload a script, same thing but click the edit code instead. This will give you a window in which you can write/paste your code. Once it's in there, click the apply and compile buttons. When you hit compile it will go through and check that you have no errors in the code. Assuming you don't, you then hit execute. please note, the script is not running at this point! It is now ready to run. You need to change the signal execution to always before it will start. Ok, so now you know how to upload and remove code from tcomms. So, how do you write the script? Ok... you NEED some experience with coding to go any further. I'll explain a fair amount in this guide, but I'm not about to teach you programming from scratch. If you want to learn and don't have any coding experience I'd suggest finding a good JavaScript guide online and starting with that as there's quite a few similarities between it and the NTSL used in ss13. Next step, read http://80.244.78.90/wiki/index.php/NT_Script . It's really not very good (I'll update it when I get the chance) but it'll give an overview of the language. Then come back here. Ok, so you've got some experience and have read through the wiki? Great, now we can get started. As I go through, I'll use examples from the script I wrote. Also, anything that's in *here* is stuff for you to put in, not to copy. There are 3 types of variables in NTSL. Strings, Numbers and Vectors. Obviously strings hold text and numbers hold numbers. Vectors hold lists of either strings or numbers. You define them as follows $index = 1; $name = “”; // gives an empty string $name = “Kiera Whiteman”; $list = vector(); //gives an empty vector $numbers = vector(1,2,3,4,5); // gives a vector of numbers accusations = vector(" is a changeling! They're draining the fluids out of ", " has an esword and just killed ", " is dressed as a wizard and just threw a fireball at ", " has an arcane tome and just dragged off ", " just turned into a blob! It killed ", " is wearing a red spacesuit! So is "); // gives a vector of strings And yes, that last one is from my script Ok, so we know what variables are available. Before we go onto what we can do with them, there's a few rules, and a few set variables you need to know about. Set variables - PI = 3.141592653; E = 2.718281828; SQURT2 = 1.414213562; FALSE = 0; TRUE = 1; NORTH = 1; SOUTH = 2; EAST = 4; WEST = 8; $common = 1459 $science = 1351 $command = 1353 $medical = 1355 $engineering = 1357 $security = 1359 $supply = 1347 These are always fixed. $source // the person who just sent the message over the channel $content // the content of the message $freq // the frequency of the message, so which channel it was broadcast over $pass // determines if the message will be broadcasted, 0 for no and 1 for yes $job // the job of the source Obviously these change with each message. They can be changed within a script. Note that $source can be changed to anything, but if it's not a valid name of a current crewmember it will be shown in italics and capitals, which is a bit of a give away. Also, if you change the frequency, the message will NOT then be ran through any scripts on that channel's server. Ok, the rules for variables. If a variable is defined within a block of code ( set of { } )it is only available within that block (and any blocks in that block). So for example - def example() { $index = 1; // defining index within the example function but outside of the while block while($index <= 10){ $count += 1; // defines and uses count within the while block $index += 1; // this is fine as the while block is within the example block } $index += 1; // index is now 11 $count +=1; // count is NOT 11, it is 1. The count in the while block died at the end of the block, so this is a new variable } // trying to use index here would have the same result as using count outside the while did The other major rule is that string and number variables are not directly interchangable. For example $first = 1; $second = “2”; $third = $first * $second; // This will not be 3, it would still be empty as you can't multiply a string $fourth = $first + $second; // again, this will not be 3, it will be a string containing “12” There are 2 functions that are built in to help with this, tostring() and tonum() which I'll cover in a minute. Vectors can hold combinations of strings and numbers. The mem function (I'll come to it later) isn't very robust with respect to keeping strings as strings and numbers as numbers, so I'd advise using the tostring or tonum functions on anything you retrieve using it. Ok, so what can you do with the variables? Each type have built in functions. The vector ones are covered in the wiki, so I'll leave those for you to look at. STRINGS + adds to strings together $test1 = “Kiera Whiteman “ $test2 = “is hacking into telecoms!” $test3 = $test1 + $test2 // this is “Kiera Whiteman is hacking into telecoms!” length – takes a string as it's argument and returns the number of characters in the string as a number. $test = “test”; $howlong = length($test); // this is now 4 substr – takes a string and 2 numbers as its arguments, returns a smaller string, starting at the position of the second argument and ending the character BEFORE the position of the third argument $test = “testing this”; $part = substr($test, 3, length($test) + 1); // this will now be “sting this”, however, without the +1 it would be “sting thi” find – takes 2 strings as it's argument and returns a number, either the position of the second string in the first string or 0 if is wasn't found $test = "testing this"; $position = find($test, "this"); // this is now 9 replace – this seems to be bugged. It should take 3 string arguments, replacing all instances of the second string in the first string with the third string $test = “testing this”; $changed = ($test, “t”, “s”); // this should now be “sessing shis”, however, when I tried it it came out as “ssshis” lower and upper – these take a string and return the same contents but in lower case or upper case respectively $test = "testing this"; $big = upper($test); // this now contains “TESTING THIS” $small = lower($big); // this now contains “testing this” explode – takes 2 strings. Returns a vector with the first string split at each point it found the second string $test = “We need a longer sentence for this one”; $seperated = explode($test, “ “); // this now contains a vector with 8 entries, first is “we”, second is “need” and so on repeat – takes a string and a number and returns a string with the string repeated n number of times where n is the number. DO NOT use this to spam! $test = "testing this"; $repeated = repeat ($test,3); // this now contains “testing thistesting thistesting thistesting this” reverse – takes a string, returns a string. Can you guess what is does? $test = "testing this"; $twisted = reverse($test); // this now contains “siht gnitset” tonum – takes a string, returns it as a number if possible. It must be in numerical symbols $first = "5"; // string $second = "10"; // string $third = tonum($first) * tonum($second); this is now 50 really don't try this with anything that might not be a number, it'll mess up big time NUMBERS ok, to start you've got 3 obvious... +, - and *. Less obvious is divide, which is ^ sqrt – takes a number, returns the square root of the number $test = sqrt(9) // this is 3 floor, ceil and round – each take a number and return a number. floor rounds it down, ceil rounds it up, and round rounds it to the nearest integer $test = 3.14159; $down = floor($test); // this is 3 $up = ceil($test); // this is 4 $near = round($test); // this is 3 clamp – takes three numbers. The second is the lower limit, the third is the upper limit. If the first is within the limits, returns it unchanged, otherwise changes it to the limit it crossed. $test1 = 50; $test2 = 10; $test3 = 28; $result1 = clamp($test1, 20, 40); // this is 40 $result2 = clamp($test2, 20, 40); // this is 20 $result3 = clamp($test3, 20, 40); // this is 28 inrange – similar to clamp, but returns 1 if the value is within the limits and 0 if it's not $test1 = 10; $test2 = 28; $result1 = inrange($test1, 20, 40) // this is 0 $result2 = inrange($test2, 20, 40) // this is 1 tostring – this takes a number and returns it as a string $test = 50; $string = tostring($test); // this now contains “50” OTHER FUNCTIONS these don't relate directly to a type of variable mem – Usually variables are discarded once the script has finished running. mem lets you store things in server memory and take them out. You can put any type of variable into memory, although if you're storing numbers, use tonum when you get them out as it can get confused. It takes 2 arguments if you're storing something, a string as a name to store it under and the variable to be stored, or 1 if you're retrieving a variable, a string for the name it was stored under $randoms = vector("Oh fuck, the sing is loose!", "Oh god, I'm vomiting spiders!", "oh shit, there's a ninja onboard", "Help! The AI's trying to kill me!", "Help, xeno Empress!", "Blob! Grab the welders"); mem("randoms", $randoms); // puts the vector of strings into memory as “randoms” $randoms = mem(“randoms”); //retrieves the vector – this doesn't need to be the same time it was put in And yes, you can guess where that came from broadcast – takes up to 4 arguments – message, frequency, source, job and transmits a the message over coms. If you don't pass it all the values it will use the defaults - frequency: 1459, source: the server name, job: None broadcast (“I'm innocent!”, $common, “Kiera Whiteman”); Kiera Whiteman [145.9] says, "I'm innocent!" will be transmitted over the radio broadcast(“I'm innocent!”); COMMON SERVER [145.9] says, "I'm innocent!" will be transmitted over the radio If $pass is 1 at the end of the script a broadcast will be transmitted with broadcast($content, $freq, $source, $job) If pass is 0, it won't be sent. signal – takes 2 numbers as arguments, frequency and code. Works just like a remote signaller if($message = “drop dead captain”) { signal(145.7, 30); // you didn't put a remote controlled grenade in the captain's backpack did you??? } I think the only other bit I need to cover is user defined functions. You can define your own functions for things that you need to do more than once, or are likely to use in more than one script. To do this you use def. You then put the function name, followed by any arguments within brackets, and put the function code in curly brackets the same as in an if or while block. If you need the function to send back a value, you do return followed by the variable. I'm getting tired now, so I hope that made sense. As an example, here's a handy one I made for my script. It takes a vector and a string and searches the vector for the string, returning the position in the vector if it's found, and 0 if it's not def searchVec($vector, $string) { $index = 1; $found = 0; $test = ""; while ($index <= length($vector) && $found == 0) // continues until it's found or reaches the end of the vector { $test = at($vector, $index); if ($test == $string){$found = $index;} $index += 1; } return $found; } As an example how to use it, here's the one that collected the names of people talking over the radio def AddName() { $names = vector(); $names = mem("names"); if (searchVec($names, $source) == 0) // if the name isn't already in the vector { push_back($names, $source); } mem("names", $names); } Ok, that's it for now. I will add useful functions and scripts occasionally as I make them... but only positive ones, if you want ones for your antags, use what I've shown you and make them yourself – if you made it this far you've already got some clues about my script

Good point, I forgot about cryo beakers Pretty much anything that can be administered by syringe can be administered by smoke grenade, both positive and negative, so there's already plenty of scope for positive grenades, they just don't get used much

This is possible now. When you make a grenade you put 2 breakers in. Put 2 of the ingredients for smoke in one, and the third in the other (eg potassium and sugar in one and phosphorus in the other. Now top up both beakers with what you want to spread and put them in the grenade. They'll mix when the grenade goes off and the smoke takes on the properties of whatever's in it. To do tests talk nicely to the RD and get his permission to use the toxins testing area. Bear in mind that there's some things you can't do grenades of as they'll react with the smoke ingredients. Chloral Hydrate is one of these, the sugar reacts and creates sleep toxin, leaving no sugar for the smoke reaction, however you can make a sleep toxin grenade.

Could we get some way for the MediHud to tell the difference between a virus and addiction? At the moment you've got no chance of isolating a virus quickly as half the station is addicted to something, whether it's nicotine, painkillers or space drugs, so you see the virus icon above someone and just wonder to yourself what they're addicted to. Really aught to be a way to tell whether it's the chemist or virologist that's been hard at work

I've had a similar round... I was a vamp and my objective was to make sure no lings escaped the station. Whilst I failed, mainly because my bats turned traitor and killed me in a fight with a ling, it was great fun, so I support this idea

Have a look at viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1829 , I've made a suggestion in there that is similar to this without enforcing people to rp with money

Wow. Never play those positions so didn't know what the EFTPOs were for. Just had a play around with them and they'd be almost perfect. The only thing that would need to be added for my scenario would be a check for if the account to send the funds to is NT and the payee is an employee then there's no charge. I've checked, and the EFTPOs are available for order from cargo. When I was checking this I had another thought. The QM isn't going to be happy if all his supply points are going on civilians wanting stuff to make money with.... so have certain (civilian safe) crates available either via SP or for a fixed amount of credits. If it's paid for with credits it's auto approved. Both the prices and payment could be built into the request computer so it's no more effort for cargonia. Civilians now have the ability to set up their own businesses.... Want to set up a pizza parlour? get an EFTPO and a pizza crate, find somewhere to set up shop, and you're in business

Thats a great idea! If an easier money system was introduced for the civies (maybe some kind of special card) that made money less of a massive pain in the arse to work with, the money system could really be used rather well. Civies would have to directly pay for cargo orders, properly buy drinks, ect. Allows for that aspect of RP without forcing it onto other jobs that have much more imporant uses of their time. This is in reply to this comment and the comment in the thread about making currency more relevant. All that's actually needed to make currency viable is a pin and chip type of machine. This machine can be set to a certain person (or department)'s account, which is where any funds from transactions are sent. The person making the charge enters the amount to be charged, and then the person paying swipes their ID and enters their pin. Transaction done. The ability to pay for something by swiping your ID card already exists in the code, you do it every time you use a vending machine. I'd add the entering the pin if we're making currency more important else we'll have ID thefts in order to get the credits. For this scenario you have a simple check... if it's an NT service (eg you're paying NT or a department of NT) and you're not a civilian there is no charge (this check could be performed before you enter your pin, so employees don't have to enter it all the time).

They do. If you want to find out whether something does have some form of drug in it, take it to the chemist and get them to grind/juice it. You'll be left with any nutrients and any drugs that are in it. You can find anything from bicaridine to cyanide.

We could try and make credits more important for civilians - NT covers employees food, drink, medical but civilians could have to pay for theirs. This would also stimulate the black market