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In my experience in Security and Command, vampires end up falling into two categories: 1. Discovered, tased, caught, holy water'd, (hopefully extinguished), and thrown in perma. Occasionally, I do see a vampire holy water'd without an extinguisher nearby, and the vamp burns to death. In these cases, I try as much as possible to steer people to cloning the vampire. 2. Very robust, very powerful, killing civilians and security with impunity. These are quite obviously uncontainable, and legitimate kill-on-sight execution targets. These vampires, being obvious execution targets, I do recommend for the cremator if they are killed. Security usually doesn't want to take the risk of another round of murderboning, and the EoC made their own bed by going loud. I think it would be a funny ahelp conversation to read: Vampire: Halp, they cremated me! Admin: You killed 20 people, a 1/5th of the station population. Vampire: So you're not gonna ban them? Admin: *facepalm*
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The ability to take people hostage with a gun
Veloxi replied to Lonelyspaceman's topic in Suggestions
Playing along can be fun too. There was one round where Asrair Ziesuzuo was a vampire, and I was playing Katlyn Hudson, Security Officer. I came across Asrair in maint and was quickly stunned, cuffed, and stripped of my headset. Katlyn: Don't do this to me, I'm a good person. Asrair: If you stop struggling, I'll take your body to Med Bay. Katlyn looks defeated. Asrair drained all my blood out, ditched the body in Med Bay by the cryotubes, then tipped off security like they were helping to hunt the vampires! After I got cloned, I PDA'd Asrair with OOC markers to ask: ((What would make the round more interesting for you? Clone Memory Disorder to keep your cover? Or rat you out to security?)) The response I got back was that Asrair usually played it CMD, but I could do what I wanted. So I played up full CMD; no memory after leaving brig to go out on patrol. No idea how I died, only that I did die. I decided that something bad happened to me and that I was going to track down whatever killed me. So I took lethals and went to patrol again. Got caught by Asrair again. Got Thralled by Asrair; who seemed very thrilled to have a thrall in security. Unfortunately, the crew transfer shuttle got called about 2-3 minutes after that. I can't remember a round that I've been more disappointed to see come to an end. An amazing experience that came out of playing along with hostage, and then playing up CMD. -
I debated making this another post on Tales from Shitcurity, but this is worth a thread by itself. I was playing Katlyn Hudson, Head of Personnel. The round was going OK, except for a Clown breaking into my office once. Then there was some downtime, and I get a PDA from Ssegorath Esskor, a friend of Katlyn's. (This is to the best of my recall...) Esskor: hudson Katlyn: what's up? Esskor: i need a solid Katlyn: come to the line Esskor: i don't need access Katlyn: what do you need? Esskor: i need access Esskor: can I have all access? Katlyn: of course not, what do you need All-Access for? Esskor: what would you give me? Katlyn: depends on what you ask for when you came to the line (some delay) Katlyn: are you coming to the line or not, silly? Esskor: can't i'm on the run I didn't respond to that final message. Some time later, I get messages from a different PDA: (Again, to the best of my recall...) Curt: i still need that favor Curt: my other pda got taken I didn't respond to either of these messages. Twenty minutes later, security shows up to search and arrest me. Charges? Aiding and abetting the Changeling Esskor. Note well: Esskor had asked me for All-Access via PDA and I said No. He never came to the Head of Personnel line. I never saw him in person during the entire round. I tried explaining my situation; to the arresting officer, to the HoS, to the IAA, and even to the Magistrate. No dice, I still spent the second half of the round in Perma, and went to the shuttle in cuffs. The only real solace here? This wasn't targeted shitcurity, I wasn't a special case. Security was pure shitcurity, through and through, to everybody, for the entire round. CC vacated a case against Blipblop for an illegal search on Green. It took another 10 minutes after CC's announcement, and a reminder from the AI that CC orders are not suggestions, for Blipblop to get released. Catherine Ward was also Perma'd for "aiding and abetting"; for PDA messages to an EoC calling them an idiot. And these are only the other cases that I know about. Pretty sure I saw a slime person try to commit suicide in perma; I don't know what his story was. Don't get me wrong, a false arrest and time in brig/perma isn't necessarily a problem. The whole falsely accused and later exonerated can make for an interesting role-playing experience. It can even be satisfying to watch those who falsely arrested you apologize and eat crow for being shitcurity. But half a round in perma for properly doing my job as Head of Personnel? Yeah, I need a break from that role for awhile.
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'Help' Med-Bay out with cutting edge cryomixes; e.g.: Toilet Water + Sulfuric Acid
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Maybe an ERP day? On second thought, maybe not. Too much Extended Role Play might make for a very boring day.
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This is true. One round I joined as an observer and there was an admin event going on. It was stuck in a kind of boring stalemate, so I offered up an idea in dead chat. I got spawned in to do the idea that I had pitched. In round terms, it was only a 'bit part'; but it was a lot of fun. Even more fun was watching the fallout after I got back to dead chat. Command was absolutely shocked, it was incredible to watch.
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IC complaints about 'hiring from the manifest'. As I said there, "If preventing manifest hires and keeping security pure is what the admins want, I'd like a standard/stock IC explanation that I can tell people who apply." I recently had a round as HoP and I hired an IAA from the manifest. HoS and the Captain both complained and demanded the individual be demoted because they were hired from the manifest. As I explained to the guy when he came back to the HoP line, "Well, you might be a Syndicate traitor and tell security to brig someone for 5 minutes instead of 10 minutes for breaking into a command area; we can't be too careful, you know?" to point out how absolutely ridiculous and flimsy the 'don't hire from manifest' crap is. Hell, I almost have sympathy for not hiring a Head of Security from the manifest, given how powerful the role is and how it could affect the round for others. But an IAA? The role long lamented to be absolutely powerless except for a fax to CC? Give a HoP a break!
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Only this: https://xkcd.com/606/
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Special Operations Officer Padraig Callahan: I want to thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding the appeal of Ssegorath Esskor. You say that you have all of the information you need regarding the incident involving Ssegorath Esskor and Mariya Sankinov. Given the rather public nature of the incident and the several news feeds that were later censored, this is not surprising. So, I shall not recount the details of the incident itself, but rather address your two main concerns. On the first concern, if I believe the decision to terminate Ssegorath Esskor was made in haste or error, I will answer in the negative. Unfortunately, the incident took place in a very public manner. What may have been an argument between two friends that spiraled out of control, took on an order of magnitude more concern when the stories hit the newscasters. Ssegorath Esskor himself was defamed in these news articles, which had suggested he was guilty of sexual assault. Just to be 100% clear, at no time, did I receive any evidence whatsoever, that a sexual assault took place. I sincerely believe that no misconduct of that nature occurred. However, it did not stop the people on the station from sending messages to Ssegorath Esskor declaring him to be a rapist and demanding his resignation. The conduct that did occur justified at least a temporary suspension. This would have allowed time for a psych evaluation of both Ssegorath Esskor and Mariya Sankinov to determine if the incident was a one off, or was a serious and troubling pattern of behavior. When the incident itself became public, many of the crew had assembled at the bridge and the mood was very tense. I sincerely believe that a public termination prevented a riot from occurring. Even if the riot hadn't occurred, the public relations fallout would have been disastrous for both the station and Nanotrasen as a whole. As it stood, the entire leadership of the security force was occupied in this incident. Fortunately, the security department did not have to deal with any major threats during the shift, or the consequences may have been absolutely disastrous. I would have preferred to handle it in private, and ironically counseled Ssegorath Esskor to do just that; apologize directly to Mariya Sankinov for his behavior and make it right by her. He refused to do so, believing that because she had done something similar to him in the past, that it was acceptable for him to do it. To wit, there are some things a Warden can do to her boss, who has the power to fire her if he seriously disapproves of her behavior. That same behavior perpetrated by the boss against a subordinate, who has no recourse is an entirely different matter. I don't believe that he took into consideration the power difference between a Warden and a Head of Security in this regard. So, no, I do not believe the decision to terminate Ssegorath Esskor was made in haste or error. I believe it was the correct decision to make, and if anything, not made soon enough. On the second concern, if I believe that Ssegorath Esskor should be reinstated as Head of Security on the NSS Cyberiad, I will answer in the affirmative, with reservations. Ssegorath Esskor is one of the best crew members who has ever served me as a Head of Security. During a crisis, he has a direct and no-nonsense approach that is surprisingly effective. Given that Head of Security is the very hardest job on the NSS Cyberiad, it makes his track record of commendations even more impressive. Beyond this, he also exhibits a direct and no-nonsense approach to his subordinates. He values communication and gives clear and unambiguous direction. Subordinates who do not communicate or follow directions properly are swiftly weeded out of the security force. In the end, the security team under Ssegorath Esskor is a well oiled machine for keeping order and combating threats. To this day, there are shifts where I wish that I hadn't needed to terminate Ssegorath Esskor. So the chance to have him back aboard the NSS Cyberiad and serving in capacity of Head of Security is very appealing to me. It is well known, documented in my file, that I am a Captain of second chances. I believe those who make mistakes have learned valuable lessons; lessons that we paid the price for them to learn. If their attitude is aligned with doing the right thing in the future, I believe it is best to utilize that experience, even and especially when acquired under painful circumstances and outcomes. However, I have three areas of reservation. I recommend ALL of these areas be covered before reinstatement should occur. Reservation one is that Mariya Sankinov write a letter stating her position on the reinstatement of Ssegorath Esskor. As I understand it, the two have since worked out the differences over the incident that occurred. I consider it vital that she request his reinstatement, and provide a statement that she would like to serve in the security department under his leadership again. You can imagine the news stories, 'Warden Sankinov forced by Nanotrasen to work for boss who ...'; it behooves us to ensure that her desires are made plain and clear on this matter. If she would not serve under Ssegorath Esskor again, then I recommend that we DO NOT reinstate him in this capacity. Reservation two is that Ssegorath Esskor be given leadership training to understand the difference in power between superior and subordinate. Understanding that the same behavior is not equal behavior when performed on a power gradient is crucial to preventing incidents such as this from occurring in the future. A successful score ranking in this leadership training should go a long way toward quantifying his commitment to serving the interests of his department and Nanotrasen as a whole. Reservation three is that Ssegorath Esskor be given security training to understand that Space Law is the source his power. Things that are appropriate to do with suspects, criminals, and enemies of the corporation are not necessarily appropriate to do with subordinates or crew members with whom he may have a personal disagreement. Ultimately, his termination stemmed from a violation of 301 Kidnapping of an Officer charge that was dropped in lieu of termination. His training must emphasize that exercise of security authority must be done under the code of Space Law and for absolutely no other reason. If all three reservations can be met, then I would be delighted to endorse Ssegorath Esskor for reinstatement as Head of Security aboard the NSS Cyberiad. I am a Captain of second chances, and I think Ssegorath Esskor deserves one. I hope that he believes the same about himself. If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me at any time. Yours faithfully, Katlyn Hudson Katlyn Hudson Captain, NSS Cyberiad
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I was playing Katlyn Hudson, Head of Personnel. Earlier, in the shift, I promoted Irithyll Rheon, Station Engineer to Acting CE. Irithyll locked Poly in a closet, and Poly wanted revenge. So Poly came to the HoP (that's me!) and asked for a Chief Engineer ID in a collar; I gave it regular Engineering access, but labeled it with a custom job title "Chief Engineer". I think Poly may have been upset with me about the ID deception... Poly squawks, "What do you want to tell your master ian?" Lieutenant Ian woofs, "YAP" Poly says, "Ian told me" Poly yells, "He wanted to tell you something" Lieutenant Ian barks, "Bark!" Katlyn Hudson asks, "What's that Poly?" Poly yells, "What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Im the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youre fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thats just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to" Poly squawks, "Thats about it" Lieutenant Ian tilts his head. Silent Knight stares at Poly in awe Ekoh'O says, "Issss lovely" Katlyn Hudson looks extremely confused.
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The OP had a GitHub link earlier in the thread: https://github.com/HugoLuman/Paradise/commits/Yin If there is interest, I'd be willing to take a look and see what's there and what needs to be done?
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I mentioned the idea very briefly on Discord, but thought it'd be better as a forum thread. I'd like to see job specific traitor objectives. For example: Head of Personnel Open 10 Clown slots and set the Clown job to High Priority Hand out 5 All-Access IDs Steal funds from 10 different accounts to get 10,000 credits in your own personal account Chemist Prevent {common medical chemical} from ever being in the Med Fridge longer than 30 seconds Replace the beaker in the cryotube with sulfuric acid Never create Strange Reagent during your entire shift Doctor Allow 2 Security Officers to die in surgery Stop a cloning process early and don't give the patient mannitol Kill a patient with an improper blood transfusion Cargo Technician Waste N points by ordering {random crate} Ensure that 3 crates ordered by non-cargo personnel are never opened Send the body of {assassination target} back on the cargo shuttle Janitor Cause at least 50 slips due to water cleaning Steal and disposal 3 valuable items Never clean in {random department} Paramedic Ensure that 2 dead people are loaded onto the ambulance but never revived Kill a patient with an overdose of {common medical chemical} Spend more than half the shift outside the station on pointless space walks Station Engineer Create 600 seconds of power outage in {random department} Disable 10 cameras around the station Cut the AI control wire on 10 airlocks Modify 5 maintenance airlocks to add indefinite electric shock Atmos Tech Set {random place} to panic siphon for 120 seconds Open a canister of plasma in a maintenance tunnel Refill a Plasmaman or Vox emergency tank with Oxygen Chaplain Bless 3 people (blessing causes a random disability after 180 seconds) Burn 3 station pets in the cremator (this one seems almost too evil) Sneak any item to a perma prisoner inside a bible I'm sure there are more ideas that could be fun.
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This scheme was implemented on Oracle, so I was surprised when I first joined Paradise and found most of the roles open. Honestly, I think they work best for players who are very new to SS13. It keeps them from choosing roles over their heads on their first or second time playing the game. My observation is that the time locks didn't significantly improve Oracle over what I see in Paradise today. Nor do Paradise's lack of time locks make things significantly worse on Paradise than what I saw on Oracle. So, nice on paper, but maybe not as effective in practice as I would hope.
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HoP hands out All Access IDs like candy to almost anyone who comes to the line. Nobody catches on. HoP 'accidentally' hires a traitor to Security without checking with the HoS first. Captain reprimands me. HoP hires a Co-HoP with equal access without permission from the Captain. Captain reprimands me. HoP gets drunk on duty and slurs her words on the Command comms. Captain reprimands me. Captain discovers the HoP has opened 15 Clown slots and set the job to High Priority. Captain summons all the heads to the bridge, who unanimously vote to Arrest and Demote the HoP. Best traitor round that I have ever played. I regret nothing! :honk:
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Sorry to Necro this from six months ago, but it's a tricky one for me. OOCly, I understand exactly why manifest hires to security are bad news; they are potential Antags who might infiltrate security and do bad things. ICly, I struggle with a reason to deny the hire. In my mind, Nanotrasen paid a lot of money to shuttle all of these people out to a space station. I assume all of them went through some kind of background check. Because Antags are present, we must assume this process wasn't perfect and let some bad actors slip through. OOCly, we know people with a mindshield at spawn (start or late) are not Antags. ICly, saying that a mindshield is an automatic good guy badge is equivalent to saying that Nanotrasen is perfect at handing out mindshields to only those who have been supremely vetted. In this case, it makes zero sense for a box of mindshields to be available in security, because there is no possible way for security to do the extreme vetting that Nanotrasen has done. In this case, SoP would be that only personnel previously mindshielded could have their mindshield replaced. And even this is dubious, as I imagine Nanotrasen would want to again redo the supreme vetting to make sure that a re-up on the mindshield is appropriate for a person who lost it. I tend to agree with ZN23X that hiring from manifest adds a unique element of danger, surprise, and fun to the game. I had a crazy shift once where I hired two from the manifest; Parker Ringer and Dan Jello. Parker turned out to be a great officer. Dan Jello was an Antag with an objective to assassinate me, and actually did kill me *as I was attempting to implant his mindshield*! Despite paying the ultimate price for my manifest hire, this was a crazy fun round. Dan earned that karma point. I guess what I'm saying is, if preventing manifest hires and keeping security pure is what the admins want, I'd like a standard/stock IC explanation that I can tell people who apply. Otherwise, I want to continue hiring from manifest, knowing that I may have signed my own death warrant, but embracing that as just another reason SS13 is so much fun.
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A Mime, A Janitor, and a Head of Security walk into Brig Processing... Here follows a woeful tale of shitcurity, for which I take the blame. I was playing Katlyn Hudson, Head of Security. For me, it was a long day of playing SS13, including some rather stressful shifts as Captain. When I spawned as Head of Security, I thought "Great, I only have to worry about the one department instead of all of them." I must have been too tired to remember just how difficult Security can be. The Mime was a shitter, committing Major Trespass into Command areas at every opportunity. The first time I had the Mime in the processing room, I searched them and cut them loose with a warning, per the Magistrate. My Warden went to cryo, and I think so did the Magistrate. My _two_ Detectives, armed with lethals, out on patrol... (if you're getting the sense that the HoS was running a real shitshow operation, you're probably right) ... were half my security force, plus a security borg. A Doctor reports a suspicious janitor around the scene of a murder, so I mark the janitor for arrest for questioning/search. We're on Green, so there are no cuffs when people come willingly. The shitter Mime gets hauled in again on another Major Trespass and is sitting in the processing room, cuffed. When I get to the processing room, the Janitor is also present, not cuffed, and riding the Janicart. How a Head of Security hopes that it will go: HoS: Hey Janitor, please sit over there. I'll have some questions after I'm done with the Mime. Janitor: *sits down* Mime: *writes something on a piece of paper* HoS: Now Mime, you can't break into those places, even if the door is open. This is your last final warning, I don't wanna see you here again. Mime: *nods* HoS cuts Mime loose. HoS: Okay, Janitor you were spotted near a murder, so I need to search your bag. Janitor: OK HoS searches bag, HoS: Okay, nothing here. Sorry for the trouble, you're free to go. HoS cuts janitor loose. How it actually went: Janitor grabs Mime's stuff, including PDA off the table and stuffs it into garbage bag. HoS: Hey, could you sit down Mime breaks out of cuffs, begins Disarm fight with Janitor. Janitor joins Disarm fight, and Mime/Janitor disarm and fight over the trash bag. HoS: STOP!!! Mime and Janitor continue to run around fighting each other. HoS tases Mime, puts cuffs on, but misses the grab before the Mime runs away. Janitor disarms Mime again to knock them down, grabs trash bag off the table. Janitor: Can I go now? HoS tases Janitor, puts on cuffs, hauls Janitor off to a cell. Janitor attempts to run out of the cell several times. HoS: STOP. STAY HERE. HoS bucklecuffs Janitor to bed. HoS sets 60 minute timer for "Protective Custody; until the Mime can be processed." Detectives ask over security radio, "60 minutes?" HoS explains trouble in brig and please come help with the janitor if they are available. HoS goes back to processing to handle the Mime. *BWOINK*: Did you brig the Janitor for 60 minutes? Me ... *facepalm* "Yes. I don't want to keep the Janitor for 60 minutes. The janitor and mime are fighting in processing and I need to keep them separated until I can handle the Mime." *BWOINK*: Okay, process the Janitor as soon as possible. HoS goes back to processing to finish up with the Mime... HoS sees the Mime *finish committing suicide*. HoS reads the Mime's suicide note left on the processing table, expressing deep frustration with security. At this point, I begin to ponder if trying to Med/High RP in Security is even worth it. My goal was to give the Mime another last final warning and cut them loose. Maybe help the Mime feel like they got one over on the security force, cops can't touch them, etc., etc. In hindsight, I think being a hardass, throwing them in for 15 minutes for Major Trespass, plus a few extra unnecessary stunbatons (because 'Don't fuck with Sec, you shitter.') would have been infinitely kinder. Or least, they wouldn't have committed suicide over it. HoS shakes her head. No help for the Mime. So what about the Janitor? HoS goes back to the Janitor's cell, it's empty. A Detective released the Janitor without a search. Gee, good thing I "only have to worry about one department instead of all of them". In hindsight, I can see lots of things that I did wrong in that shift. The short list is: I shouldn't have let two Detectives act like Security Officer+ I should have had one Detective playing Detective I should have had the other Detective go to Warden, go to Officer, or go out of security altogether. I shouldn't have let the suspects outnumber security in processing I should have called for backup as soon as I had the headcount that put me at disadvantage I shouldn't have tried to be kind to the Mime a second time I should have thrown the Mime in for 15; optionally add an unnecessary stunbaton or two. Most importantly, I shouldn't have tried to play Head of Security without the energy and attention to do the role properly. I think it's easily the hardest job on the station, and trying to do it while exhausted is just asking for trouble. Special note: Sorry to the suicide Mime. I wasn't trying to ruin your round.
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Tonight, I was playing Katlyn Hudson as a Security Officer. Not long into the round, alert level goes up: Vampires Security patrol together but are subdued and killed by vampires. The vampires are so brazen, they openly talk on the Security channel using stolen headsets. I set them to Arrest so it'll be easy for other sec officers to spot them. Ten minutes later, security officers are asked to sound off. I'm the only one who does. Warden is SSD, Brig Phys is alive at Brig, but I'm the only officer left. Blueshield wants to Redshield but can't because the vamps aren't attacking any heads of staff. I cross paths with a Beepsky in the hallway, and get a great idea! I turn the beepsky off and drag it with me into Sci Maint where the vampires are known to haunt. I figure I'll get into vampire territory, turn beepsky on, and I'll have a patrol buddy! And my patrol buddy will be immune to vampire charm too! I continue slowly through Sci Maint, warned by the Paramedic that vampires lurk ahead. I spot a lot of blood and a security satchel dumped on the ground. Ut oh! I turn Beepsky on. BEEPSKY IMMEDIATELY STUNS AND ARRESTS ME! Now, Ziptied, I see the vampire that I was hunting, and I run away as fast as I possibly can. I take a wrong turn on my way out and the vampire just grabs me (I'm ziptied, remember?) The vampire drags me deep into the bowels of Sci Maint. I beg for my life, but the Vampire tells me, "You're the only one I actually need to kill. The rest were just in the way." The fangs pierced my neck, and the vampire feasted until I died. Curse you traitorous Beepsky, a disgrace to the security force.
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That Brig Phys was a very feisty woman. I could easily see the Head of Security saying, "Sure, *you* go tell her she has to stay in the brig..." Next time I'll remember to create a distraction to keep low-pop security busy while I hide the body!
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Yes, it was very helpful. With your tutorial, I went from 'knows enough to blow up the station by setting up the engine incorrectly' to 'can set up the tesla solo, no sweat'. It just seemed too evil to repay that with death by e-Sword. Probably would have been a hell of a shock though!
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I decided to try out a Station Engineer role with a new character Madison Mueller. I had tried out engineering before, but didn't really know what I was doing. In the past, someone taught another character (Katlyn Hudson) half of setting up the tesla. I was hoping to learn the whole engine setup and maybe do some small station repairs to get started. Madison Mueller is a round start engineer, and ... I roll traitor. I have an assassination target, a fellow engineer, Asrair Ziesuzuo. Asrair Ziesuzuo is there, so I asked for help with engineering during the shift. My plan is to work up a mentoring relationship, and since I actually need the help learning engineering, it's a good plan. I figure I'll off Asrair maybe in 60-90 minutes into the shift in some remote location we're repairing together. Asrair instructs me on how to set up the tesla engine, everything, start to finish. People were complaining over comms about power and setting up the engine. Asrair explained over comms that they were teaching me and others would have to be patient. We finish setting up the engine and Asrair then tells me they need to cryo and asked if there was anything else I needed during the shift. The only thing I needed was to complete my traitor objective. I see nobody else around, pull out my PDA, pop in the traitor code, buy an eSword. I think to say "Just one more thing ... *swing*" but it seems SO CRUEL to off Asrair who was so nice. So I let it go. I pop the eSword into my O2 box, and just get to work repairing the station. I get a new assassination target, Scientist Jack Wildfire. Sci-Chem. I repair a bombed up section of Cargo / HoP for awhile, then decide to get some food and check on my target. I manage to make it all the way to Sci-Chem, and I find Jack ALREADY DEAD on the floor. Sweet! I just need to turn off the suit sensors, drag the body into a lonely locker in maint, and my objective is complete. So I begin dragging the body into maint. The brig phys is out on patrol with another security officer. They catch me out of the corner of their eye. Brig phys pushes me down, fetches the other officer back to my location, then drags the body away. I pursue, thinking I can explain that I found him dead and was dragging him to Med Bay. Officer stuns me, pulls the eSword out of my O2 box, declares me EoC .. Perma Time. So, in trying to show mercy to Asrair, I wound up in perma, for an eSword that I DIDN'T EVEN NEED to kill my already dead target. I almost escaped from perma due to the greytide virus, but again the Brig Phys got me, this time with pepper spray. Fortunately the captain decided not to have me executed for being an EoC escapee.