MindLeaker

>tfw you return to the forums briefly and see this

I hope to see more of these in the future solely for the aftermath of it all, it was horrible in an endearing way

Thing is, if we don't make changes, we're going to stagnate, because we'll constantly have the problem of validhunting, in both Security and the crew, which I find honestly less appealing than the possibility an antag gets away with a sleepypen once or twice. I'm not a fan of the status-quo, but my own ideas are way too drastic to be implemented whatsoever. And the idea of new players having to become accustomed to it sounds better to me than the more drastic flipside, new players becoming accustomed to valid salads, not to mention I'd warrant new players would be more adaptable than the old, since they have lived with the rules for a shorter time overall. This is a small change with big repercussions, that's very clear. And naturally I'm in no position to decide whether or not this would be too much strain on the admins to police, but overall the simple idea that the crew isn't some group of people with access to super-classified documents seems better to me. If admins have to crack down on Security as a result of this change, I can see why it might be undesirable. But honestly players that leave simply because they can't catch sleepypen users aren't the kind of players many like to deal with regardless.

I'm optimistic, but that's way too hard to police from an administration standpoint, while Command should definitely be briefed on the many types of antags about, having department specific info like that is absolutely impossible to enforce. Not to mention, if one character plays Engineer, and has knowledge of bombs, then the next round his plays Cargo Tech, he's hardly going to forget all the information suddenly.

But any of those times an antag kills you the knowledge of that shift is wiped. I don't think that's a valid argument here because the amount of shifts anyone can remember is entirely up to them and how they play.

That's pretty much my argument here, roleplaying some all-knowing Sec Officer who has apparently encountered every single antag and every single contraband item in his 20-year life is ridiculous to me. I've always been pushing for a higher RP standard, and a change like this would likely help greatly in moving us back up to MedRP. On the other hand, I can understand those that disagree here, changing a rule so old can be unwelcome to a great many that simply don't want that kind of RP in Paradise. Stealthy items are kind of moot when every Sec Officer searching you knows to check the pen in your PDA, that removes the point of making them stealthy, really, since you'll be branded a traitor as soon as they see a reagent amount in the pen.

Thing is, I can (and many other Surgeons, too, probably) can already see ways of getting around that using other mechanics, this is a very bad thing as it means those more familiar with obscure medbay ideas would have ways to heal others that ordinary doctors haven't access to. Not to mention, cloning is definitely the worst method of revival available, Strange Reagent, defibs and other interesting methods completely overpower cloning in almost every factor. All in all, removing this crucial a part of the game is nigh-impossible, because other mechanics built after it's addition never factored in the idea of it ever being removed. That's not even factoring in all methods of resurrection being removed, which I can 100% promise you is impossible, because there are so many ways of doing so, many of which don't even require Medbay. As for forced CMD, our server is Med-RP, not HRP. Making that radical of a change to something that's been the same for years now would likely piss off a great deal of our playerbase. At this time, I agree that defibrillation needs to be revised, but this radical of a change is simply too heavy-handed at this point in the game's lifespan

This sounds like a pretty fascinating round; three or four devils competing to win over the most amount of crew members. As for what Spark said, Validhunting is against the rules in most circumstances, if admins just crack down on randos chasing the Devil through the station with stunprods, we should be good to run this.

Good. Nobody should have absolute authority on overturning something. A staff or community consensus is desirable, no matter how much of a fuss the person kicks up Please, get the admins, or even the Wiki Dev team, focusing on this issue, as it's been a problem that has been here for far too long, and as I said only further justified players like the infamous "Rachy Wolfe"

First and foremost, I feel there's no need for this as official lore by admins is "in the worksTM". My hope is that the admins understand the predicament that the various races are in and plan accordingly, I doubt any of us can do alone what should be done as an entire group. I'm don't want pick on you but this is an example of what happens when lore is decided on by too few people who haven't multiple points of view on how the race should more in a lore sense.. I'm trying to put this gently, but this only further justifies the absolutely shoddy quality of various Vulpakanin roleplayers, I'm not saying all fall under that category, but the entire "Behaviour" section reeks of this select group's shortcomings. And I don't think the server would want, or should want to move in that direction. Honestly, and this is advice to any further aspiring lore-writers, not only Pseudo_Unicorn, leave it to the admins, they (hopefully) will rectify some of my worries with their varied opinions and experiences.

Name: David Campbell Age: 37 Gender: Male Race: Human Blood Type: AB- General Occupational Role(s): Surgeon, Geneticist Biography: Mars-born, Campbell grew up in the industrial hub of Lowell City. While his family were poor third-generation miners, Campbell's ambitions were to become a medical practitioner and break out of the poverty he had experienced as a young child. Fighting tooth and claw for a scholarship, he eventually was admitted into MIT [Martian Institute of Technology]. There he studied various medical sciences, a steady-hand and gentle outlook quickly allowed him to excel within this area. Tragically, nearing his graduation, David's father, Arthur Campbell, was incinerated in a coal fire explosion deep underground. The body was unable to be retrieved as the many shafts nearby had all collapsed around the mining crew. It took 4 days of fire-crews and rescue teams to prevent the fire spreading. By the time the area had been broken into, the bodies were nothing but ash. [security Access Only]: [spoiler2]It is suspected that the coal fire explosion was an intentional infrastructure attack, this has not been revealed to Campbell, as no evidence on-scene could be saved from the explosion.[/spoiler2] This had a drastic effect on David, his grades steadily dropped as the final exams neared, and his mood progressively worsened. His responses became gruff and abrasive, with little in the way of positivity. He passed the final exam with the bare minimum of marks needed to pass, gaining his MD title. Post-graduation, he took a job as an on-site MD with the Lowell City Miner Corps. This lasted 3 years, during this time his diligence and ambition returned, but his gruff attitude remained. At the age of 29, Campbell left the Miner Corps and established a joint business venture under the name "Campbell & Cooke", setting up a clinic in the slum area of Lowell City, they were a moderately successful business, attracting many poorer citizens due to their low fees. The firm lasted for 6 years, until Campbell suddenly announced his departure. This resignation marked the sudden fall in C&C's stocks, and the business collapsed only 2 months after. [security Access Only]: [spoiler2]At the time, multiple investigations had been conducted into C&C's unscrupulous activities, while officially Campbell's resignation was for "Medical Reasons", it is believed that Campbell merely wished to eliminate any links to various racketeering charges and alleged ethical violations.[/spoiler2] Over the next 2 years, Campbell operated as a freelance medical practitioner to various companies, such as BioTech Solutions and other medical science companies. He is now working a part-time contract aboard the NSS Cyberiad, based in Epsilon Eridani. So far, his tenure has been beneficial to NanoTrasen, although he has a bad habit of rubbing his crew-members the wrong way. Qualifications: Bachelors of Surgery Bachelors of Medicine Employment Records: Lowell City Miner Corps Campbell & Cooke Practitioners [defunct] BioTech Solutions NanoTrasen Corporation [current] Security Records: [spoiler2]Records are relatively clean, aside from multiple investigations for racketeering within his now-defunct business, Campbell & Cooke; none of which garnered results. Campbell has been suspected of breaking ethical standards in the past. While this can be beneficial, a full-blown investigation by the Ethics Committee is not desirable by any means. Keep him on a tight leash.[/spoiler2] Medical Records: Psychological Profile: Campbell is gruff and abrasive, but extremely dilligent, it is not recommended to attempt to engage them in anything else besides work-related conversations, as most will result with nothing but angry remarks. Medical History: Nothing major of note, during his tenure here he has accrued some minor injuries such as broken femurs and feet. One reported death, memory of previous events wiped due to possibility of trauma Personnel Photo: A short, stocky male with a greasy goatee that covers his face, pale grey eyes take up what little space there is left on his calloused skin. A head of hair reaches his shoulders, scruffy and dirty. He is not what you would consider "handsome", in all regards Known Family: Arthur Campbell [father- deceased] Yvonne Campbell [mother] Leon Campbell [brother] Jonathan Fitch [partner- non-employee]

Entire Surgery page is outdated with /tg/'s Surgery being introduced: http://nanotrasen.se/wiki/index.php/Surgery

Who is this guy? He looks like a massive nerd to me. Let's ban him preemptively.

as far as i can tell, its from baystation... https://wiki.baystation12.net/Tajaran_Major_Clans Yup, all our lore was shoehorned on at an earlier time, before Baystation had even finished their version, I've always wanted to bring it up to date, but it's pretty pointless honestly. Furthermore, if you're mass-obsoleting the Tajaran lore: http://nanotrasen.se/wiki/index.php/Njarir%27Akhan http://nanotrasen.se/wiki/index.php/Hharar They're all under the "Ethnicities" tab here: http://nanotrasen.se/wiki/index.php/Tajaran#Ethnicities Bit late, just wanted to point it out

You might want to clarify who exactly authorizes this, because it might lead to an IAA letting a Psychiatrist waltz into Perma and be murdered.