Landerlow Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Title says it. Lots of time IM' bored. Or I WANT to play as shadow at roundstart for example. Just .. roam in the maints, do nothing, be spooky. Maint shadow hobo !! Would it be hard to add this? Next patch? NOW? TOMORROW? 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 As extra thought: GIve them the following power(s): Shadowstep to step in other shadows Ability to turn off lights shortly. Ability to hide in darkness BOOOO! BUT THEY CANT DO DAMAGE OR HARM PEOPL! It's just a gimmick really Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatbananacyclops Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Hi, i'm gonna have to disagree. Shadow persons will interfiere with antagonist and security jobs, and it'll be really bothering. Validhunt would even start. Can they even communicate to us? if they could there can be meta Though, i like your creativity! keep it up, i know you can do it. Edited June 25, 2017 by bigfatbananacyclops Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 Then make them not able to do that. Or: GIve them laws to abide by. This can be easily solved Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 Give them the laws of the shadows/afterlife: DO NOT INTERFERE WITH 'living' beings, do not concern yourself with antags, etc. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargh Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 22 minutes ago, Landerlow said: Give them the laws of the shadows/afterlife: DO NOT INTERFERE WITH 'living' beings, do not concern yourself with antags, etc. Drones already have that law and they broke it most of the time, having a human being character shitters can play would be a really bad idea even with those laws Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 Just now, Vargh said: Drones already have that law and they broke it most of the time, having a human being character shitters can play would be a really bad idea even with those laws This is why we have admins. Also if we have to forbid everything because people COULD be shitters, we might as well shut down the server. If this were implemented I would abide by all laws. Also, LIMITATIONS to as to what can or cannot be done is the key to this idea. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enginseer-42 Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Y'know what could be a neat traitor item? Haunted Slab. When you use it, you take some brute damage to cut yourself on it. Creates a 'portal' for ghosts to spawn through with the goal of causing havoc. However they know who opened the way for them and are forbidden from interfering in their work. Perhaps it could create a revenant every so often? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 Pls no revs. My suggestion is jsut simple: 1. Give people the ability to spawn as shadow person from roundstart. Shadow people: - Cannot do damage, or if they can, VERY LITTLE - Have the following power(s): ----Shadowstep ----BOOOO! -- Manipulate lights (flicker/turn off shortly, etc) -- Talk to other shadows -- cloak in darkness (possibly) RESTRICTIONS: -- Do not interfere with business on the station -- POSSIBLY: Unable to speak to living people on the station? They would be more restricted than drones, but just something to keep ghosts 'busy'. Perhaps the ability to return to the afterlife, if you get bored? It's just for !!FUN!!. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Dead nerds are not supposed to interfere with the round outside of random midround spawns or someone putting the effort in to make something in xenobio/botany. You are dead, rip in piss. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 Does everyone here have something against me, my suggestions, or against fun gimmick, non-invasive, non-round altering-funstuff? D: Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamon Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Better improve existing back-to-life features than add new worthless one Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 This is more of an addition. You can spawn as a mouse who can't do anything, why not a shade with restrictions? I really don't see why you are all against it, lest I would think that EVERYONE WILL ABUSE IT. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereticChurch Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 When we get around to finishing up Lavaland, there will be special areas with spawners, allowing ghosts to take over a role like an ashlizard or free golem, and let them do as they please, surviving in the desolate wasteland. Perhaps a suggestion could be to place a Shadow Person spawner in an abandoned area somewhere in Lavaland? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 I still think that ghosts could respawn as shades, a mere shade of their existence, and roam dark areas. Shouldn't be a problem. But yeah .. if people don't like it, then they don't. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
necaladun Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 We're really not too interested in more options for dead people to rejoin the game. We currently have mice, drones, npcs, mining bots, and a whole bunch of mid-round antags. The non antag ones are meant to be mostly noninstrusive, just fun little things to pass the time with. Something like this (whose job is appears is to mess with people) is much too obtrusive on the round and the players. If you want to play something that interacts so much with crew like that, play a crewmember. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted June 26, 2017 Author Posted June 26, 2017 @necaladun What about making an ability to make ghosts visible for like, 10 seconds or so, like a proper haunt ability? Just a visual effect. Would that be doable? Would still make people dead though. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) That would just be like a death alarm+ as you could go show yourself in security to tell you're dead. Death is already a minor annoyance instead of something to take into consideration, no need to dilute it even more Edited June 26, 2017 by Rumiluntti Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/10699-give-ghosts-a-shadow-person-respawn-option/#findComment-88735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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