Threeinone Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 I think to add a bit of incentive to win as an antag, you should get a number of Karma points. I personally don't know if this is already a thing, since i'm an unlucky, unrobust noodle, but i think this would add a reason to win and strive for one's objective. let me know if you aggree! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomzy Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Would further the idea of only doing your objective, so you dont miss out on karma. We want to reinforce creativity for doing objectives, but that would mainly be seen as a giant risk. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxil Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 No! We do not need to encourage people to strive for greentext even more. You should not give antagonists permanent rewards. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyOmaha Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 I disagree; You could have an assassinate target and they end up dying somehow completely unrelated to your doings - you shouldn't be rewarded for that. You could cheese your way into completing an objective which you shouldn't be rewarded for either, at least not in the same way Karma is given out and treated. It will make a lot of people have a "play to win" attitude. It will also probably devalue Karma immensely. Karma should be given to you only by other players for it to remain what it is - karma. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Dman234 Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 This enforces the exact wrong type of mentality, absolutely not. Karma points are meant as a reward for RP and this has exactly the opposite effect. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdtalon Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 If you play a fun to watch antag you will get Karma from the observers anyway. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regen Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Being an antag means that it's your turn to be in the "spotlight", you have something most others don't, that's more than enough incentive to give you karma if you RP well. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threeinone Posted August 4, 2017 Author Posted August 4, 2017 it seems i have a different idea of antags and karma. I don't have any good examples of wholesome interaction with antags, and karma seemed like an iffy "rely on other people so you have more options to roleplay." i agree with all your opinions though and am sorry for attempting to adversly affect the ins and outs of the game. goodnight. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerfulgamergod123 Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 you guys really upset this guy. i feel for you threeinone. don't worry, Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 I would rather see more mechanical uses for karma than ways to gain it. Like maybe you can spend 50 karma to buy 5 more loadout points (up to a max of two times). Or 100 karma to unlock an additional language option, those sorts of things. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threeinone Posted August 4, 2017 Author Posted August 4, 2017 8 hours ago, powerfulgamergod123 said: you guys really upset this guy. i feel for you threeinone. don't worry, It's more of a "agh, shit. I'm wrong." I'm still pretty new, so i'm bound to make mistakes. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlattestGuitar Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 There'd be no point to this forum if people couldn't make suggestions that were found to be bad in the end. Don't worry about it and keep having fun! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxil Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, FlattestGuitar said: There'd be no point to this forum if people couldn't make suggestions that were found to be bad in the end. Exactly. It takes some time to understand how everything works, but feel free to make new suggestions even if they get rejeted. Worst case scenario, you learn something new. In this suggestion not really the karma is the problem, more like the mentality that it comes with greentexting. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threeinone Posted August 4, 2017 Author Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bxil said: Exactly. It takes some time to understand how everything works, but feel free to make new suggestions even if they get rejeted. Worst case scenario, you learn something new. In this suggestion not really the karma is the problem, more like the mentality that it comes with greentexting. That's what i think went wrong, I don't have an idea of traitors who don't greentext. (I come from Yogstation, you see.) so i don't have a good example of traitors interacting with crew in an interesting way. all my memories of "hey follow me into an alleyway!" (i do, then get shot in the face 5 times) Edited August 4, 2017 by Threeinone adding to the topic Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxil Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 It comes up here every month now that we need an alternative, such as removing greentext or removing objectives alltogether. While the admins do not punish those who finish their objectives with doing nothing fun, they prefer (I think actually we ALL prefer) if you do something interesting. Please mind that getting caught or intentionally doing it weirdly (like asking for t-comms tour from the RD to steal the voidsuit from there) can be extremely fun and often results in karma mountains. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZN23X Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Getting caught also gives other antags the chance to help you escape. Or for you to try to escape. Can even give some sort of a sob story about how the Syndicate forced you to work for them when being processed. Or how NT did you wrong and forced you down this road. Make things interesting. Edited August 4, 2017 by ZN23X Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regen Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 it's not a "wrong" suggestion, you didn't mess up by making it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threeinone Posted August 4, 2017 Author Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Regen said: it's not a "wrong" suggestion, you didn't mess up by making it. Agh, I'm wrong! lol Edited August 4, 2017 by Threeinone 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11140-antag-reward/#findComment-92369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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