Carprillo Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Hey! Just a small thing that I thought I'd suggest after coming back to Paradise after quite some time. Put simply: let's make space SEXY. With Parallax, the fancy-shmancy moving space code that you might have seen on servers such as Goonstation, /tg/, and most recently, Aurora. What it is, in technical terms, I don't actually know. I'm not a coder, not gonna pretend I am. But the point is, it looks awesome. It makes space feel much more realistic and have a lot more visual depth, at very minimal tickrate/ping/performance cost. Hell, I'm not even sure there's any cost period, except maybe a small ping increase. Anyway, yeah, go on to any of those three servers and take a look at their space graphics, and you'll see what I mean. In comparison, Paradise's current space is just...flat, so I think the server will hugely benefit from having Parallax added. And the best part is, if you don't care for it/your computer can't handle it/whatever, it's completely optional! You can toggle it off, on to basic, high, or 'insane' levels, and it's just generally a pretty kickass addition to servers! It seems pretty simple to port too, as /tg/ and Aurora ported it from Goon and it works fantastic! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 I've not seen that. Anybody have a gif of the parallax in action? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazneria12 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 we had parralax for a short time, but I think it broke the game in some way so we reverted it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carprillo Posted August 21, 2017 Author Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Here's a video of it I found, courtesy of r/SS13. ImmaterialKindheartedKingsnake-mobile.mp4 Edited August 21, 2017 by Carprillo Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamon Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) It... dont feel reaistic to me at all. It looks like these are not stars but glowing dust floating few meters away. Stars billions of billions of kilometrs away would not move from the human perspective. Would like to see space retextured though. I understand the "optional" part so people who find it attractive could have it, but i dont think we can spend coders' time resource on that Edited August 21, 2017 by McRamon Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carprillo Posted August 21, 2017 Author Posted August 21, 2017 1 minute ago, McRamon said: It... dont feel reaistic to me at all. It looks like these are not stars but glowing dust floating few meters away. Stars billions of billions of kilometrs away would not move from the human perspective. Would like to see space retextured though I mean, even setting that aside, it does definitely add a lot of much-needed depth to space. And as I said, if you really don't like it, it's coded with an option to turn it down/off, meaning that if you're hung up over it not being realistic, you can just elect to not use it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carprillo Posted August 21, 2017 Author Posted August 21, 2017 And I should probably reiterate that this would probably require comparatively little resources straight from the coders. It's quite literally just a port, so most if not all of it is probably already coded. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamon Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Well whatever, if it makes you happy, why not, i accept this to be implemented. [sign] Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziiro Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Parallax combined with goonlighting and the sheer size of the playerbase on paradise caused unplayable lag. So it got tossed out. Wouldn't keep your hopes up Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carprillo Posted August 21, 2017 Author Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Ziiro said: Parallax combined with goonlighting and the sheer size of the playerbase on paradise caused unplayable lag. So it got tossed out. Wouldn't keep your hopes up Is the lag really that bad? /tg/ runs it with goonlighting and they consistently get 60-70 players on both servers, with little to no added lag. I mean, obviously there's a difference there, we're looking at a 110-at-a-time playerbase here, but I suppose I just wasn't expecting the added lag to be that huge of a deal. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 IIRC Parallax was a huge power-hog on the same scale as Goonlights. @Fox McCloud can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I recall a conversation where it would drop the max capacity of the server by a significant margin due to performance concerns. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 I thought it was chucked out because there were some massive glaring bugs with it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayswift Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 Here's the PR revert discussion. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleGenie Posted August 24, 2017 Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) I remember the round we had it in was very laggy, yes. We also had a bug where all the normally black space on screen (things you couldn't see because of walls et cetera) was instead space parallax. Edited August 24, 2017 by PurpleGenie 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigercat2000 Posted August 24, 2017 Posted August 24, 2017 We've tried Parallax before. It caused everything from client crashes to significant server lag, purely because of the processing power required for it. Even our server can't handle both fancy goonlights running at 1 tick updates alongside atmospherics and parallax. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-93960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpose2 Posted August 25, 2017 Posted August 25, 2017 Basically Paracode can't handle it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11319-parallax-implementation/#findComment-94003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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