WingedYordle Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) No one is in favor removing cloner from medbay, it would be great to have an option to accept or deny cloning. Due to my "snowflake" bio, my character has unstable DNA to clone. I have no option stop cloning and I am sometimes AFK and forget to leave body before they read my medical profile and clone. It is a waste of biomass. Is it possible to add an option either in preferences or have it ask you to clone or not? EDIT: Or enforce medbay to read user's medical history... Edited October 18, 2017 by Trubus Just thought of it. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcelinePye Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 We have 4? Races that cannot be cloned already, and they are regularly gibbed/ignored. I don't think we need to increase that number. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rurik Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 On 10/18/2017 at 10:14 PM, Trubus said: No one is in favor removing cloner from medbay, Expand I mean, I am However I do agree a option somewhere in preferences would be nice. I simply have no desire for some characters to be cloned even though they are cloneable, and it would remove some hassle if a preference toggle would auto-reject my cloning process, or something of that nature. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylocereus Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Yeah, I also play a character who is "uncloneable" for IC reasons but nobody ever checks her medical profile so usually I just end up stubbornly afking as a ghost in the corner of the map and flicking in and out of my corpse occasionally to remind people strange reagent exists. (Well, Sam can BE cloned, it's just really really bad and traumatic for her for various reasons and she has an alternate method of revival offstation) It would be really neat to have an uncloneable toggle in preferences like Rurik said. Only a few snowflakes would use it, myself included, but it would also force medical to be less "whatever" about letting patients die so I love the idea for that alone. I wonder how hard it would be to code... Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargh Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 What is being cloned 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedYordle Posted October 18, 2017 Author Posted October 18, 2017 On 10/18/2017 at 10:50 PM, Hylocereus said: Yeah, I also play a character who is "uncloneable" for IC reasons but nobody ever checks her medical profile so usually I just end up stubbornly afking as a ghost in the corner of the map and flicking in and out of my corpse occasionally to remind people strange reagent exists. (Well, Sam can BE cloned, it's just really really bad and traumatic for her for various reasons and she has an alternate method of revival offstation) It would be really neat to have an uncloneable toggle in preferences like Rurik said. Only a few snowflakes would use it, myself included, but it would also force medical to be less "whatever" about letting patients die so I love the idea for that alone. I wonder how hard it would be to code... Expand It is either that or make it some way to make them read medical records. Like security profiles. You know Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedYordle Posted October 18, 2017 Author Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) On 10/18/2017 at 10:42 PM, Rurik said: I mean, I am However I do agree a option somewhere in preferences would be nice. I simply have no desire for some characters to be cloned even though they are cloneable, and it would remove some hassle if a preference toggle would auto-reject my cloning process, or something of that nature. Expand I placed a suggestion a long time ago to remove clone. A lot of people had mixed feelings. Edited October 18, 2017 by Trubus Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/18/2017 at 10:14 PM, Trubus said: No one is in favor removing cloner from medbay Expand What a bold statement. Don't AFK in this game, ever. Ghost when dead. Cloning prevented Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdtalon Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) On 10/18/2017 at 10:14 PM, Trubus said: Due to my "snowflake" bio, Expand I laughed here and then disregarded your suggestion. Edited October 19, 2017 by Birdtalon 4 1 2 1 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayswift Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 9:32 AM, Birdtalon said: On 10/18/2017 at 10:14 PM, Trubus said: Due to my "snowflake" bio, Expand I laughed here and then disregarded your suggestion. Expand I don't think it's that absurd to be personally against cloning. Maybe you're skeptical that your soul actually transfers upon death, so you'd rather stick to your original brain and body. It's the problem of personal identity. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdtalon Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 It's not, but when a suggestion is made due to a "snowflake" thing which could potentially affect the entire server then it deserves a lot more thought. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylocereus Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 Does it really effect the whole server though when it's entirely opt in? That's like saying being able to turn of traitor effects the whole server. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdtalon Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 1:56 PM, Hylocereus said: Does it really effect the whole server though when it's entirely opt in? That's like saying being able to turn of traitor effects the whole server. Expand Anything which changes how cloning works would affect the whole server. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someonewithapen Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 I wouldn't say no if this were an option. A lot of people purposely choose handicaps for the sake of RP as it is (Prosthetic limbs + disabilities) Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylocereus Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 2:13 PM, Birdtalon said: Anything which changes how cloning works would affect the whole server. Expand It doesn't change how cloning works. Nowhere has any kind of mechanical change been suggested. The way I'm seeing it implemented, if ever such a thing was possible, it would just be something like automatically throwing an MIF on people who had it enabled. Don't have it enabled? Nothing changes. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedYordle Posted October 19, 2017 Author Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 8:35 AM, Rumiluntti said: What a bold statement. Don't AFK in this game, ever. Ghost when dead. Cloning prevented Expand This is going based on my removal cloning in the suggestion forum. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedYordle Posted October 19, 2017 Author Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 12:49 PM, Birdtalon said: It's not, but when a suggestion is made due to a "snowflake" thing which could potentially affect the entire server then it deserves a lot more thought. Expand It was label by players when I firsted started off ignoring cloning. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doukan Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Make unclonability for whatever reason a char preference ala NT relations/disabilities AND HAVE IT COME UP IN BIG RED LETTERS when someone tries to scan the corpse, problemo en el solvedad? Or have it be an SE mutation, that might be more fun. Edited October 19, 2017 by Doukan 2 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedYordle Posted October 19, 2017 Author Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 8:31 PM, Doukan said: Make unclonability for whatever reason a char preference ala NT relations/disabilities AND HAVE IT COME UP IN BIG RED LETTERS when someone tries to scan the corpse, problemo en el solvedad? Expand That is the reason this topic was made, to encourage players to voice their interest so something like this could happen Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 If you don't want to be cloned, stay out of your body or enable antagHUD. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedYordle Posted October 20, 2017 Author Posted October 20, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 11:29 PM, Shadeykins said: If you don't want to be cloned, stay out of your body or enable antagHUD. Expand Enabling antagHUD disables you from being resurrected by other means. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayswift Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 11:29 PM, Shadeykins said: If you don't want to be cloned, stay out of your body or enable antagHUD. Expand Also, if people try cloning as the first thing, and it rejects you for "mental interface failure", then they might not try other methods like SR or brain transplantation. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 On 10/20/2017 at 12:51 AM, Trubus said: Enabling antagHUD disables you from being resurrected by other means. Expand Exit your body when someone attempts to put you in a cloning scanner, then. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedYordle Posted October 20, 2017 Author Posted October 20, 2017 On 10/20/2017 at 6:40 AM, Shadeykins said: Exit your body when someone attempts to put you in a cloning scanner, then. Expand Sometimes you are not quick enough. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedYordle Posted October 22, 2017 Author Posted October 22, 2017 On 10/21/2017 at 8:00 PM, Alexkar598 said: why not make unclonable a disability and you can set it in the setup character screen? Expand I would love that option. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/11745-option-to-deny-cloning/#findComment-97786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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