Habalabam Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 How do separators behave if there is a lot of pressure on the separation outlet? (High pressure gas mix) => (nitrogen Separator) =(outlet)=> Low pressure=> (Flow?) =(N outlet)=> Very high pressure. Will the very high pressure on the nitrogen configured outlet somehow "block" the throughput on the main outlet? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czardoc Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Do you have any other questions? Very happy to help. In your setup, I'm really curious as to why there are so many scrubbers connected to the pipelines and why there are connectors that connect to pipes that connect to nothing smack in the middle (next to the scrubbers). I still don't understand much. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted September 1, 2014 Author Posted September 1, 2014 Ah, ignore the connectors, just didn't have time to mess around with those. I might use those for pressure release if theres a huuuge fire and even my setup gets overwhelmed. All the extra scrubbers are simply incase something happens to atmos, (like some ass opening the N20 cans up) that many scrubbers eat gas crazy fast. Extra vents are also great as you can very rapidly refill rooms. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted September 1, 2014 Author Posted September 1, 2014 How do separators behave if there is a lot of pressure on the separation outlet? (High pressure gas mix) => (nitrogen Separator) =(outlet)=> Low pressure=> (Flow?) =(N outlet)=> Very high pressure. Will the very high pressure on the nitrogen configured outlet somehow "block" the throughput on the main outlet? What? Do you mean filters? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habalabam Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 Yep. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czardoc Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 So is the point of Atmospherics dealing with fires the quickest? Or is it dealing with any toxins the quickest (CO2, Plasma, N2O) ---also--- If I were to supercool CO2/N2 to fight fires, how would I distribute this now supercooled air into an area with fires in it? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted September 1, 2014 Author Posted September 1, 2014 Well, atmospherics has many jobs, the very basic job of atmos is to just circulate good air and filter bad air. Stopping fires is the biggest priority as fires can rapidly spread and will heat and pressurize the air, clogging atmos rapidly. The filter system will be able to easily filter any toxins rapidly, along as atmos is setup properly and the loop isn't clogged from a fire. Canisters. Only and best way unless you do some super complex pipe network. (And that would take hours to build on any major scale) If you tried to send that mix into the air distro loop it would come out of EVERY single vent on the station. A great way to kill plenty of people and get lynched. I would recommend you find an "airlock," open the canister up inside that room and then open the door to the burning/hot room. If its still on fire start spraying down the room. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone White Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 Fj45, he means if the filter second output (in his example a filter set to N2) is over the pressure set, will it stop any gas from flowing out the first output (because it contains N2)? I'm going to assume yes, but this could be tested ingame with a few canisters. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted September 2, 2014 Author Posted September 2, 2014 Ah, yeah, I guess that would be the case. Always want to keep any gas going into the filters low pressure. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habalabam Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 "into the filters"? If you are talking about the inlet pressure, then that is not what I asked. The filter component has two outlets: * One for the particular gas that the filter is configured for. (Let us call it "N2 outlet" in this case) * One for the remaining gas. I was asking what happens if the N2 outlet section has high pressure. Will it "block" the filter component as a whole and thus also stop gas from going from inlet to "remainder outlet"? Though I have my opinion about how it should behave, this pretty much comes down to how it is coded. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted September 2, 2014 Author Posted September 2, 2014 Hmm, that's a good question and I really have no idea. Code should explain it though. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czardoc Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 This is probably a dumb question, but it most pictures all of the gas pumps are off. I'm supposed to turn all of them on, right? I turned them on this round and it looks like Gas Cooling is clogging... --also-- Are all the valves supposed to be open (The valves that lead to each Gas) Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone White Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 Usually, just the valves to supply N2 and O2 to mix for air. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted September 3, 2014 Author Posted September 3, 2014 Could you be more specific about what pumps you are talking about? Possibly use some pictures? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czardoc Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 Could you be more specific about what pumps you are talking about? Possibly use some pictures? I'll list the pipes and valves, tell me which ones should be on (valves are listed with VALVE at the end) Distro to Waste Mix to Distro Pure to mix Air to mix unfiltered to mix Gas mix outlet valve Gas mix inlet valve Air to port Pure to port N2O to outlet valve N2O to pure Plasma to pure Plasma outlet valve CO2 to pure CO2 outlet valve N2 To pure O2 to pure Nitrogen outlet valve Oxygen outlet valve Mixed outlet air valve Or just circle which ones should be on in Paint or something? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Posted September 4, 2014 Paint would be best really. W Why do you have the waste going into two OXYGEN canisters? I can't see any reason to have them as the loop is working fine and the oxygen canisters would fill with whatever nasty gasses were in the loop. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czardoc Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 I actually cool the oxygen down while I'm working on the rest of atmos, when I have the waste pipe turned off. I just photoshopped the pipes to the O2 tanks being on so I would remember. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Posted September 5, 2014 Dunno about that, you should never treat the waste line as being fully pure. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1183-bucks-guide-to-not-being-an-atmos-scrub/page/4/#findComment-12654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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