Midaychi Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 With the general success of maintenance drones, I've found it silly that they have a more broad capability to repair the station then plain old engineering cyborgs. In Fact, I'd go as far to say that maintenance drones are better at engineering cyborg's jobs then the cyborg themselves. So perhaps, to remedy this, it would be neat to: 1. Add certain maintenance drone modules to the engineering cyborg module, including the grabber and the decompiler, plastic and wood. The engineering cyborg should be a superior and larger variant of the maintenance drones with full autonomy. I agree that the maintenance bots include modules that would be more fit for a janitor module, so perhaps not include those. 2. Give the engineering cyborg module a cyborg station blueprint, so they can define new areas. 3. Alter maintenance drone's interact law to include being able to interact with engineering cyborgs, and add a fourth law follow the engineering cyborg's orders except in cases where it would break the other laws. Maybe even slave drones to engineering cyborgs/have a prompt to select one to get slaved to. This way, with #3, engineering cyborgs end up with both the capability to repair the station properly, and to command a fleet of scuttling maintenance drones to assist. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midaychi Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 Second idea in addition: Allow maintenance drones to dock to the engineer borg they're slaved to in the same fashion that diona nymphs can dock to fully grown dionas. That way, they can travel as a big group and resist out when they need to do work. Think like baby spiders docking to a big spider. It'd be pretty hilarious if there was a cyborg-sized version of the maintenance drone sprite or something similar for engineering modules. Would also be super cool if an engineer cyborg could enable/disable a toggle that, when enabled, causes the engineer cyborg to act exactly like a cyborg recharge station for docked maintenance drones, but drains the cyborg's battery (and possibly material, maybe not. I dunno.) That way, engineering cyborgs could effectively exist as mobile construction platforms. Perhaps in this mode, the engineer cyborg gets bolted down, and draws power from any wires underneath it? That way you don't get maintenance drones sucking the cyborg dry. Maybe to balance it out, the engineering cyborg can't gain power in this mode and can only completely act as a cyborg charging dock for maintenance drones due to such and such NT regulation or other against cyborgs recharging off of wires? That way it couldn't be abused to avoid the need for a recharging station for the engineering cyborg itself. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 How about adding a new drone type too? Mining drone. It could keep the station supplied with ore during longer rounds and give any miners a friend. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midaychi Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 I like that one, but they definitely shouldn't replace miners themselves. Maybe even make a drone-version of the most common cyborgs, miner/engineer/janitor and slave them to the type/be dockable? Janitor maintenance drones (google image search scrubbing bubbles mascots) Engineer (AS they are now) Mining (Little mining bots with tiny drills or pickaxes?) The only problem I can see are when you bring up medical/security/servitron drones. Their very existence/purpose would break drone laws. They'd either need special laws or just to plain not exist. Would be hilarious to see tiny beepskis and medbots scuttling around though. Doubly so for tiny drink coaster spiders. Not sure why we even have a default cyborg module but whatever. I personally think we should replace the default module with a farmbot module for hydroponics/farm animal maintnence. Then we could have tiny farmbot drones. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Think like baby spiders docking to a big spider. Jesus Christ how absolutely horrifying. " Look children, a hull breach! Your favourite thing ever!" *beep* *beep* *ping* *buzz* Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Farming drone would be cool. Might need some slightly changed laws though. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qinetix Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Drone modules would be interesting.. then slaving them to a certain cyborg... even better, now the borgs won't feel like the slave of everyone and give them a new purpose. They will have their own personal army. So thats pretty colio. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Yeah that'd be really awesome, however, if the borg's rogue the drones should remain on the KEEPER lawset. I've fought an army of drones before and they are extremely powerful. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midaychi Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 The best way to emag a borg would be to emag one of their drones, and drones still can't obey orders from their synched cyborg if they violate the rest of the keeper lawset, so I don't really think it'd end up being a problem in practice. If it does become a problem, it needs more of an admin involvement than anything else. By synch I definitely meant only having that cyborg as their master, not sharing laws. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Yeah I really like the idea. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage199 Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 I have only one thing to say. Yes. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midaychi Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 Heh. Servitron Drones. They can crawl into and out of soda/alcohol dispensers, you can pick them up and drink out of them, and they're constantly wearing the drink they're holding as a hat (So you can see walking singulos or syndicate bombs with spider legs underneath). Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midaychi Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 As streaky brought up on IRC, drones of all modules are a nice idea, except for security drones. We definitely don't need those... BUT! As an alternative, the security module variant of drones would be: A Lawyer drone. Complete with a miniature briefcase, sunglasses, a loud and official sounding printer, and a universal recorder. These drones are tasked with the job of making sure space law is followed, due process is observed, cell timers are appropriately set, security records are properly maintained, and paperwork is filed in full. All the module drones would need custom versions of Keeper though, but with careful wording and admin policing I doubt it'll be that much of a problem. Alternatively: [13:49:15] a lawyer wearing a lawyer drone on their head [13:49:24] the fiercest crime-handling duo [13:49:53] That'd... [13:49:58] be the most amazing thing [14:09:21] no [14:09:23] the drone [14:09:25] IS a briefcase Could be sprited to be a briefcase with spider legs scuttling around, and when held in hand by a human mob, would look like a normal briefcase. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regen Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 DRONES ARE TAKING OVER HAVE WE ALL HERE NOT WATCHED TERMINATOR? SKYNET PEOPLE! SKYNET! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 I'll get my axe. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qinetix Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 I sure as hell found mine. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-6652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticMeow Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Static supports the CMD! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-8576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Soo...just IPCs? With less benefits? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-8803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrin-Kanthos Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 So, make IPC even more useless? It will probably be implemented then. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-8821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midaychi Posted July 2, 2014 Author Posted July 2, 2014 Silliness aside, I'm with Fj45 here. We already have IPC, and they're eventually going to be constructable, and you can accomplish cyborglike tasks just by equipping yourself right. About the only thing we're missing are some tools from bay12 like welding fuel backpacks. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-8847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 welding fuel backpacks. I want those simply for the awesome flamethrowers. Imagine adding liquid plasma to it! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-8849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrin-Kanthos Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 welding fuel backpacks. I want those simply for the awesome flamethrowers. Imagine adding liquid plasma to it! Imagine sabotaging one and giving it to your target! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-8850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Even better, suicide bomb! Grab a welding fuel tank, strap the pack on and run at the brig! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-8864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
belarion Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Even better, suicide bomb! Grab a welding fuel tank, strap the pack on and run at the brig! Fill it with mindbreaker, be the chemist the station deserves. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-8975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I want to revive this thread because I liked the concept. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1312-engineering-cyborg-the-chief-maintenance-drone/#findComment-19557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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