Coldflame Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 title, someone with a desword and flashbang protection is basically invincible unless you powergame with lances inb4 'salty', being unhappy something overpowered killed you doesn't make it not overpowered 1 1 4 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 Adrenals + Desword is a guaranteed nukie win, take it from the guy who literally just did it. Nerf or make nukie only. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdtalon Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Objectively false. There's plenty of ways to take down a desword user. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1f73r Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Space lube. Guns. Hell some teargas. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldflame Posted June 5, 2018 Author Posted June 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, Birdtalon said: Objectively false. There's plenty of ways to take down a desword user. as far as I'm aware the counters are: -be lucky -use slips (unless they took basic steps to counter that) -use flashbang (unless they took basic steps to counter that) -use the hilariously overpowered explosive lance -use the hilariously overpowered space lube correct me if i missed any Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamon Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Coldflame said: as far as I'm aware the counters are: -be lucky -use slips (unless they took basic steps to counter that) -use flashbang (unless they took basic steps to counter that) -use the hilariously overpowered explosive lance -use the hilariously overpowered space lube correct me if i missed any You missed a lot Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSacawv Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Add any ballistic or thrown weapon to the counters. Edited June 5, 2018 by BrandonSacawv Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldflame Posted June 5, 2018 Author Posted June 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, BrandonSacawv said: Add any ballistic or thrown weapon to the counters. it blocks ballistics on an rng chance (see "Be Lucky") and no thrown weapon achieves much bar lances Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdtalon Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Coldflame said: as far as I'm aware the counters are: -be lucky -use slips (unless they took basic steps to counter that) -use flashbang (unless they took basic steps to counter that) -use the hilariously overpowered explosive lance -use the hilariously overpowered space lube correct me if i missed any Be lucky applies to so much of the game anyway. Just throwing spears and getting several good hits is going to hurt them if not break something if it embeds. Buckshot is one of the best options because you are firing more projectiles so you're going to get more chances to hit. Anything to ignite the person as they will have to either tank the burn or stop to deal with it. Fastmos can be exploited super easily if you have magboots. Flashbang is super good if you're working with others. Activate it and run adjacent to them, super hard for them to protect against a close flashbang. You may tank some damage but your team should be able to clean up, if they run away throw the flashbang at the last second and you may get lucky. Exploit the fact they have to have it in two hands at all time, don't panic and spam lasers at them, keep them at range and draw them somewhere where you have better odds. They can only deal damage to you when adjacent, the moment they put the sword away to take out a ranged weapon they're vulnerable. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziiro Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 If someone has completely prepped themselves to deal with all counters, and spent the TC on a double esword, why do you think you should be able to easily counter them? As others said, use lube. Lube in a spray bottle never goes out of style. Throw in some CFL3 if it's nukies. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 A stack of metal rods and running space. Just keep tossing rods at them while running away. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargh Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Energy Bolas, buckshots, dragonbreath, lube, teargas, flashbangs, the clown 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniusAreas Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Theres a way you can counter buckshot, lube, teargas, and bolas I think. If you use a uplink inplant as a nukie, you don't get a nukie implant, instead you get a standard traitor uplink from that you can buy sleeping carp. Enjoy even more nerfing need. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoCam Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Throw floor tiles. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutTC Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 Blow them up. Let's see if they can still deflect the explosion blast radius. Fuel tank won't really kill them but guaranteed satisfying chance of long term injury, stun and limb loss. But if you really hate them so much then go with Toxin bomb and pretend you didn' think about collateral damage ahead and gibbing people with it. *cough Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/5/2018 at 10:12 PM, miniusAreas said: Theres a way you can counter buckshot, lube, teargas, and bolas I think. If you use a uplink inplant as a nukie, you don't get a nukie implant, instead you get a standard traitor uplink from that you can buy sleeping carp. Enjoy even more nerfing need. The uplink polls the gamemode, so this is patently untrue. I have tested and verified this myself, you can't do this whatsoever. Even if it wasn't the case you shouldn't be encouraging people to exploit. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidchan Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 >Security main can't baton a melee oriented item. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldflame Posted June 9, 2018 Author Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, davidchan said: >Security main can't baton a melee oriented item. >25% hit chance Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 Gotta have those sweet dodges man Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidchan Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) I've literally taken down desword users with nothing but a baton and bolas. If you can't manage it >git gud Sec has a massive arsenal to deal with them. If they have a bowman and sechud, you can still pepper spray them. If they are wearing a mask, you have bolas. The clown and janitor have slip items you can easily commandeer, not to mention BEAR TRAPS. If there is a miner get their KA, it ignores the block rate and just aim for a hand till it breaks while kiting. Non-sec can throw crap, use pneumatic cannons, disarm spam in groups to keep flanking, or just literally throw someone at the desworder to garuntee knock them down and allow you to run up and snag the sword or just pummel the tator tot into oblivion. What the hell is with the nerf frenzy on paradise trying to hugbox items that have literally been in the game for years. Edited June 9, 2018 by davidchan 2 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 Nobody knows the terror that was the Ebow + esword combo 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malphystoh Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 I bet that was madness! I've considered trying the ebow edagger :3 but I'd need to practice switching hands rapidly Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
necaladun Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 16 hours ago, davidchan said: just literally throw someone at the desworder to garuntee knock them down and allow you to run up and snag the sword or just pummel the tator tot into oblivion. ...that's just genius. I used to think anything is a weapon in the hands of the crew. Now I realise it's anything and anyone. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayswift Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 13 hours ago, Malphystoh said: I bet that was madness! I've considered trying the ebow edagger :3 but I'd need to practice switching hands rapidly Can't you just press X in hotkey mode to switch hands? 31 minutes ago, necaladun said: ...that's just genius. I used to think anything is a weapon in the hands of the crew. Now I realise it's anything and anyone. The real reason why officers are told to patrol in pairs Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
necaladun Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 You can never be disarmed if you are the weapon. *taps head* 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/13602-add-a-counter-to-the-desword/#findComment-112844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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