ClarkPark Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 As long as there's no punishment for internal bleeding and alien extraction surgery with no anesthesia. I mean, "Yes, sir, you have an ugly alien about to burst through your chest and you will explode in tiny pieces and make a mess. Now, please, let me adjust your mask and turn on this anesthesia tank. Good night.". There are also heads that wish to be awake during the process to keep an eye on their staff, and I totally understand that. I think local anesthesia would be for the best, if you want to make anesthesia required. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone White Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 So, to re-confirm, I will be adding a failure % chance for: all surgery on a non-anaesthetised patient all surgery not done on an operating table Quite when this will happen, I don't know, I have other things to work on currently. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 Don't surgeries on tables/rollers beds already have a failure chance? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone White Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 No Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zgun Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 No There at least USED to be a miss chance on tables that weren't surgical tables, not sure what happened if it's out of the code now. Also if you're gonna be a dick and do this to VOX and SLIMES please actually fix the features in both to not have appendix and slimes to not have bones. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone White Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Also if you're gonna be a dick... :roll: ...and do this to VOX and SLIMES please actually fix the features in both to not have appendix and slimes to not have bones. Large amounts of sleep toxin should be a viable workaround. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkPark Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 So... If someone has an alien about to burst from his chest, I have to waste time putting him on anesthesia? I seriously think local anesthesia should exist for this Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 you have soporific, clark and tramadol Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 For those of you who like saving money, we also have the crowbar-to-the-head method. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qinetix Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 They don't remain knocked out long enough :<. It may also result in MORE surgery to make. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkPark Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 you have soporific, clark and tramadol I meant in terms of time, injecting sleep toxin or dragging them to sleepers and back to surgery takes unecessary time. And alien extraction is already a long surgery I'm sorry, I'm just not digging this idea at all I know it makes sense for the patient to move, but I quite liked to roleplay emergency surgeries, if there's a chance of failure it's not worth the risk Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chechico Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I will agree with clark. I have had great fun playing a patient in a "no time to lose an alien has jumped on her face and it was not Lamar" situation before and had a couple of great moments with the surgeon, assistant nurse and psychiatrist Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone White Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 So how about this for a compromise: Two different types of surgery depending on intent: Help/disarm intent surgery has a lower chance of failure but is slower and will not cause accidental damage. Grab/harm intent surgery has a higher chance of failure, is faster, but often causes additional bruising. Differentiating between routine surgery and emergency surgery. Best of both worlds. Imagine the damage caused when that embryo is ripped out now. It's not going to fail, but their organ(s) will need repair afterwards. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkPark Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 So how about this for a compromise: Two different types of surgery depending on intent: Help/disarm intent surgery has a lower chance of failure but is slower and will not cause accidental damage. Grab/harm intent surgery has a higher chance of failure, is faster, but often causes additional bruising. Differentiating between routine surgery and emergency surgery. Best of both worlds. Imagine the damage caused when that embryo is ripped out now. It's not going to fail, but their organ(s) will need repair afterwards. Sounds interesting! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Like the sound of that. Once the alium is out you normally should have enough time to fix the damage. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Me Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Fireaxes should be a valid part of ghetto surgery. Actually, the hatchet is a valid "ghetto-tool" replacement for circular saw... :twisted: So how about this for a compromise:Two different types of surgery depending on intent: Help/disarm intent surgery has a lower chance of failure but is slower and will not cause accidental damage. Grab/harm intent surgery has a higher chance of failure, is faster, but often causes additional bruising. Differentiating between routine surgery and emergency surgery. Best of both worlds. Imagine the damage caused when that embryo is ripped out now. It's not going to fail, but their organ(s) will need repair afterwards. I really like this idea. But I'd still like to point out that this may not really cause any significant delay in fixing the patient, as you can just use the advanced trauma kit after the alien embroy (or farwa/monkey) extraction, as you now already have their chest open. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/1419-players-should-be-punished-for-declining-anesthesia/page/2/#findComment-8642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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