Kryson Posted September 18, 2018 Posted September 18, 2018 One of the most enjoyable aspects of the game for me is burglary and theft and items like gilded pens, stamps and ashtrays are all fair game for the enterprising greytider. The captain's office and quarters have a good amount of cool items to steal such as the bedsheet, soap, flask and genuine Bob Ross painting, but many of the other offices are quite barren unless the person has forgotten to lock his locker. I just wish these spaces could have a few more ornate fluff items, luxury items or just simply mildly useful but exclusive items that a non antagonist is allowed to steal. I also wish the we could increase the amount of credits and precious metals in the vault, a few thousand credits and a couple of gold bar seems out of proportion to the level of security. Feel free to give your ideas, i will be willing to help sprite if the community thinks this is a decent idea. 4 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClosetMailman Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 How about a sapphire the size of a head? Could potentially also be used as a component in a BSA, making it even more valuable? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splgrk Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Agreed on the vault. Mining shovels out gold bars by the dozen, I don't think they should even be in there. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ID404NotFound Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Splgrk said: Agreed on the vault. Mining shovels out gold bars by the dozen, I don't think they should even be in there. they really only exist in there on the off-chance mining does jack-shit (it happens) and you need gold for virus cure edit: it is fun to steal the champion belt and then hold your new title. Edited September 20, 2018 by ID404NotFound 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calecute Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Heads could have some meaningless trophies and/or medals. There's a wide range of stuff this could be. They could even be random. Some corporate sport stuff like "2º Place in Basketball in NT Engineering Games", or "3º Place in hokey in the Cyberiad Departmental Games". They could be an award for something the department did that NT considered worthy: "Best NT team in Engine Security"; "Award in Fire Security in Toxins Handling". Medals could be like the medals cap have, but for some minor stuff, like "dep employee of the shift", or "best xenobiologist", etc. Also we already have mugs. Maybe you could just spawn the mugs on Heads desks instead of in their lockers. I bet most would just leave them there. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvaricePleonexia Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, MamaFarthole said: Captains underwear added when? More prized than the spare ID! Best. Idea. Ever.If it weren't for how lewd stealing underwear is. 1 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZN23X Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, ID404NotFound said: it is fun to steal the champion belt and then hold your new title. its also fun to perma people for stealing it and have them try to explain to you IC why it is acceptable for them to break into and steal something from what is technically supposed to be the most secure part of the station. play stupid games, win stupid prizes. honk. Edited September 20, 2018 by ZN23X Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvadableMoxie Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 The Championship Belt counts as Grand Theft? Not sure I'd agree with that for a fluff item with no actual use. Grand Theft seems more designed for traitor objectives. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calecute Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 I think Championship belt does not count as Grand Theft, but valt is Grand Breaking and Entering, i will check Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvadableMoxie Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) There is no such thing as Grand Breaking and entering. It would be Major Trespass which is up to 15 minutes. If we throw in Theft that's up to another 15, still half what you'd need to perma someone. They'll probably resist arrest, that's another 5. And if we throw +25% at them for not cooperating that's 43 minutes and 45 seconds, still not enough for perma. Edited September 20, 2018 by EvadableMoxie 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calecute Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Yeah Grand Theft is "Theft of cutting-edge technology, documents, and research samples." I don't think Championship belt counts. It's just Major Trespass and Theft for 20-30min. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ID404NotFound Posted September 21, 2018 Posted September 21, 2018 They'll have to challenge me to take it from me. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryson Posted September 21, 2018 Author Posted September 21, 2018 I have sprited an ornate box, originally intended as a snuffbox(I would like to see nasal or oral snuff be added at some point, but that is for another thread.) What could it contain? I just know i would steal it if i had the chance. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClosetMailman Posted September 21, 2018 Posted September 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Kryson said: I have sprited an ornate box, originally intended as a snuffbox(I would like to see nasal or oral snuff be added at some point, but that is for another thread.) What could it contain? I just know i would steal it if i had the chance. I would love a box like that as a fluff item, personalized and all, just dedicated to holding slugs in all sizes and uses. Then again, i`m a shotgun addict and probably should`nt waltz around with one in the brig on green Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamon Posted September 21, 2018 Posted September 21, 2018 Can we have a unique "we know" dark brotherhood paper placed in janitor closet? 4 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvaricePleonexia Posted September 22, 2018 Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, McRamon said: Can we have a unique "we know" dark brotherhood paper placed in janitor closet? Yes, please. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allfd Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 So, to be kind of the no fun allowed police. Breaking into high security areas as a non-antag is not the kind of thing I think we want to encourage at scale. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamon Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Allfd said: So, to be kind of the no fun allowed police. Breaking into high security areas as a non-antag is not the kind of thing I think we want to encourage at scale. Thats why we place all the cool stuff in no security areas! ME BREAK GLASS ME TAKE BELT Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fursamie Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 15 hours ago, Allfd said: So, to be kind of the no fun allowed police. Breaking into high security areas as a non-antag is not the kind of thing I think we want to encourage at scale. Breaking into high security areas isn't the issue, it's what people decide to do WHILE in that room. For example, breaking into the captain's quarter is OK. Stealing the bedsheet from their bedroom is OK. Taking the antique gun is not OK. Taking the hand tele is not OK. Breaking into high security rooms doesn't detriment anyone's round:it might just end up fucking you over instead, but taking actual steal objectives from the traitor AND the rightful owner is scummy. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allfd Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Fursamie said: Breaking into high security areas isn't the issue, it's what people decide to do WHILE in that room. For example, breaking into the captain's quarter is OK. Stealing the bedsheet from their bedroom is OK. Taking the antique gun is not OK. Taking the hand tele is not OK. Breaking into high security rooms doesn't detriment anyone's round:it might just end up fucking you over instead, but taking actual steal objectives from the traitor AND the rightful owner is scummy. OK, so If I see any non-antags doing this, I am going to assume they are self antaging and if they cant offer an amazing RP explanation of why they were breaking two major laws under space law (in the same 3xx category as beating someone into crit) they will end up with a warning on first offence and depending on notes, I may ban them. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpose2 Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 On a more fun note: On Delta station most areas have a unique Action Figure. The idea being it'd be a fun collectable thing for enterprising young greytides 2 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allfd Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 Yeah for clarification, its very context dependent. On slow rounds, especially if you ahelp, you are going to get an amazing amount of latitude in thieving. The problem is, most people go full tide on red alert. When security is too busy dealing with the actual antags to respond to the break in and an officer getting his taser and baton stolen. Even if no major thefts occurred, I have been disappointed many times when ghosting. We fly around and watch, especially if things look like antag activity. This is not to catch people, its because its more interesting to watch. I have seen plenty of breakins, long security chases with much disarm spam and a ton of officers. Finally they get the tide, I go back to watching antags and then... without warning... *bwoink* Quote New admin ticket #99999 admin help: rando/(Gary Tideingson) Can security just arrest me for slipping a person on a banana peel? Alffd (adminsay) .... Fuuuuuuuu. PM to rando: They arrested you for slipping someone? rando: Yeah, not even them just someone in the hallway. It was in self defense PM to rando: Was it an officer? rando: How does that matter. Alffd (adminsay)...... PM to rando: Stations on red. rando: Yeah but they just tased me without even saying anything. PM to rando: I thought you slipped them? rando: Yeah but they were already trying to tase me PM to rando: was it because you were running away with them with the captains chain of command from a hole you made into their office with thermite? rando: Where does it say I can't do that? Alffd (adminsay) jklfdssa;ljkvdafsu4q4r324fgv82kt5b4g2t45 PM to rando: OK look, thats self-antaging your notes say you have a long history of this. The last note says to ban you again if this happens, but that was like, a week ago so I am just going to give you another final warning. rando: YOU ARE ALL JUST POWER TRIPPING! THIS IS WHY REDDIT HATES YOU, SECURITY WAS YOUR METABUDDY FURRY FRIENDS! Alffd closes ticket #99999 Alffd added a note to Rando: Makes super salty ahelps after being arrested for tiding hard. They have a long history of notes including multiple final warnings within this month for exactly this. If they do anything like it again, ban them. 2 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fursamie Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Allfd said: OK, so If I see any non-antags doing this, I am going to assume they are self antaging and if they cant offer an amazing RP explanation of why they were breaking two major laws under space law (in the same 3xx category as beating someone into crit) they will end up with a warning on first offence and depending on notes, I may ban them. "Minor criminal activity is allowed as a Non-Antagonist. However, it will be considered Self-Antagging if it negatively affects a significant portion of the crew, or is done without any reasonable IC justification and/or provocation;","Actively diverting Security personnel and resources away from an active and direct Antagonist threat in order to deal with you and your actions will be considered Self-Antagging;". TECHNICALLY it is against the rules so... fuck 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calecute Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 I find it extremely amusing that people who break the rules are the more eager to ahelp when something goes wrong for them. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allfd Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 So if you do want to do it, just ahelp first. Worst thing that can happen is you get a no. My general intervention plan for self-antaging that is not violent or seriously screwing over someones round is to look the other way assuming. 1) No salting over ahelp when caught by security 2) No salting over LOOC (This is worse then ahelps, I can brush off salt in ahelps with no issue, you don't get to mess with other players) 3) No screams of shitcurity or about security taking your voxygen, don't disarm spam and disposal their stun baton, I will not be impressed by your robustness. 4) Nobody ahelps it. If you don't think you can go with out 3/4 ahelp first. While making more opportunities for tiding way ups the chaos and should probably not be endorsed, but we are far looser on tiding then we could be. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/14406-more-greytide-gratifying-stealables/#findComment-118982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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