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Admin(s) Key: Spacemanspark
Your ckey: Malphystoh
Your Discord name: Malphystoh

Date(s) of incident (GMT preferred): 02/04/19  ( says 02/05/19 but its still 2/4/19 here in the US.)

Nature of complaint: Complaint

Brief description: Banned for 24 hrs due to Dchat discussions. Was told to "stop". Stopped engaging with people in Dchat and started discussing with Spark in a General sense said in essence " I'm sorry, I'm just getting tired of shitty sec officers" and was thusly banned for 24hrs.


Full description of events:  The previous round, when I joined as chaplain and had just arrived in the shuttle. Was being dragged away by an officer to help vs cult. This spawned a furious dialogue back and forth for the majority of the remainder of the round. The next round, attempted to discuss this with one of the officers in D chat. Admin (spark) advised us to "stop" I attempted to move from discussing this with the officer of the previous round, to discussing general security performance with Spark in a more general sense, inviting dialogue in regards to recent security personnel's actions throughout the past few days / weeks. Was then subjected to a " you know what? Fuck it." in D chat. Then summarily banned for 24 hrs. It would seem that the admin involved either misconstrued or intentionally took statements out of context, then handed out a ban with little justification. Reading other Admin complaints in regards to said admin certainly seems to give some context to this. I feel it is unfair for arbitrary banning without at least some discussion or dialogue. This is clearly a situation that was misconstrued and then escalated without any thought or regard as to the situation at hand. Much less the context and dialogue of the statement in question. 

 

 

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I'd certainly hate to think drinking habits would be affecting judgment here. 

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Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): were you an officer or the hop last round?

[REDACTED](Mel Killson) (175,63,1): Me?

[2019-02-05T01:27:36] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): Yuh

[2019-02-05T01:27:39] DEADCHAT: [REDACTED]/(Mel Killson) (160,111,1): Officer

[2019-02-05T01:27:40] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): Officer?

[2019-02-05T01:27:42] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): Right

[2019-02-05T01:27:49] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): in my office

[2019-02-05T01:27:49] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): The Disabler

[2019-02-05T01:27:57] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): The illegal arrest.

[2019-02-05T01:28:05] DEADCHAT: [REDACTED]/(Mel Killson) (182,103,1): To be fair, ya were being dickish about blessing a water tank

[2019-02-05T01:28:17] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): I was not

[2019-02-05T01:28:18] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): infact

[2019-02-05T01:28:28] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): you listen to one single officers statements and assume the worst?

[2019-02-05T01:28:41] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): Some jerk face tries to drag me out of arrivals shuttle

[2019-02-05T01:28:58] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): I blessed a water tank for the warden. Cause they were NICE

[2019-02-05T01:29:16] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): Can't believe you disablered me and cuffed me

[2019-02-05T01:30:15] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): Like you just took what some noobie shitler officer shitsec said as truth

[2019-02-05T01:30:25] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): that shit can get you arrested for incompitence

[2019-02-05T01:30:34] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): Then yoiu cryod

[2019-02-05T01:30:38] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (149,221,2): cause fek it I guess

[2019-02-05T01:31:16] HREF: Malphystoh (usr:Azdrubael Meph[(149,221,2)]) : Azdrubael Meph src=[0x3000180]_443;follow=[0x300013c]_408

[2019-02-05T01:31:19] DEADCHAT: [REDACTED]/(Mel Killson) (49,146,1): I cryo'd 30 minutes after that my dude, I had several broken bones from the blob and I didn't want to bother the medical staff

[2019-02-05T01:31:26] DEADCHAT: [REDACTED]/(Mel Killson) (46,154,1): Ya can't let stuff go

[2019-02-05T01:31:45] ADMIN: Spacemanspark/(Spacemanspark) : Hey guys, let's chill a bit.

[2019-02-05T01:31:45] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (114,135,1): Leting stuff go? just means you'll be a shitler for ever.

[2019-02-05T01:31:48] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (114,135,1): T

[2019-02-05T01:31:48] ADMIN: Spacemanspark/(Spacemanspark) : ...

[2019-02-05T01:31:51] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (114,135,1): F

[2019-02-05T01:31:56] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (114,135,1): FINE SPARK

[2019-02-05T01:31:58] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (114,135,1): *grumble

[2019-02-05T01:32:33] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (103,118,1): *clap

[2019-02-05T01:33:08] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (103,118,1): What can I say Sperk. Im gettin real tired if shitty sec officers

[2019-02-05T01:33:27] ADMIN: Spacemanspark/(Spacemanspark) : So when I say

[2019-02-05T01:33:31] ADMIN: Spacemanspark/(Spacemanspark) : "Stop"

[2019-02-05T01:33:42] ADMIN: Spacemanspark/(Spacemanspark) : You know what, fuck it

[2019-02-05T01:33:59] DEADCHAT: Malphystoh/(Azdrubael Meph) (131,173,1): I assumed moving on from a specific premise to a more generic one would be appropriate.

[2019-02-05T01:34:27] DEADCHAT: [REDACTED]/(Mel Killson) (172,156,1): Jesus, let's just watch the crew kill eachother

Admin logs between myself, Malphystoh, and the other player in question.

A headmin will answer this when they are available.

Posted

Yes indeed. Much as I specified. But good for clarification. You said lets Chill a bit while we were typing. I then typod a few times and said OK SPARK in humor. Then I started talking with you specifically. Then you just jumped to "when I say stop" then "You know what fuck it" then proceeded with the ban without any discussion or dialogue. I was clearly accepting you're decree and moving away from Mel's statements to move on to elsewhere. Then you I guess decided " Fuck it " .

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this was all in a matter of about 10 seconds. We were both typing over each other at that point. I think its unreasonable for you to jump immediately to the ban hammer in Dchat. There was opportunity for clarification and understanding. But I guess " Fuck it" is just easier ? IDK man. Very confusing. 

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Hi there,

From what I see here, you broke the rules by insulting people in an OOC channel, continued to do so after being told to chill out, and received a short ban for this. No discussion or dialogue is needed here. You either follow the rules, or you get banned. We're not interested in "discussing" why you shouldn't be insulting people.

I have absolutely no idea how this could be perceived as arbitrary or related to drinking habits, unless you're the one who is drunk. 

This complaint shows a complete lack of self-awareness or willingness to accept responsibility for your own behavior. To then bring up "drinking habits" is an asbolutely pathetic attempt to smear the character of the admin who gave you a slap on the wrist - despite your many warnings for insulting people in OOC channels.

The only misconduct here was from yourself. Spark was quite kind in making this only a 24 hour ban. I would not have been so merciful. 

I highly advise you re-examine your speech and behavior in OOC channels, because if this continues, the next ban will not be a timed one.

Complaint is completely without merit, insulting, and shows a complete lack of self awareness.

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