Admin Complaint

[RadiantFlash]

Admin(s) Key: Abydos2
Your ckey (Byond username):RadiantFlash
Your Discord name (if applicable):Radiant Flash

Date(s) of incident (GMT preferred):5:15 GMT PM, 02/23/2020

Nature of complaint: Abuse of Powers.
(Select all that apply: EG - clarification required, misapplication of rules, misconduct, abuse of powers, feedback, other)
Links to all relevant ban appeals for any bans related to this complaint: None.

Brief description (tl;dr here. Just the critical elements): Being blownup by an admin for questioning something reasonably icly.

Full description of events: So to start. I'm Playing Vasharr Zahirn, Security officer. Partway through the round it becomes clear that we got changelings, we burn like 2ish, and have multiple break ins to high security areas. Stations pretty Chaotic, We've had multiple people who shouldn't be on sec comms talk on sec comms, Not to mention security gear being stolen from arrivals checkpoint.
The situation starts when I wake up from surgery after getting bones fixed, and head to security to recharge my gear. Over communications, theres someone named '[Special Operations Officer] Jeneta Milosm ' talking on communications, telling us to burn the current head of security, for with-holding information about changelings (according to the magistrate). They inform the warden they will be the new Head of security.
Now understandably confused, because when has that ever happened before, the crew protest a bit over security comms, only for the officer to assert
[Security] [Special Operations Officer] Jeneta Milosm says, "Warden.. I'm Central Command, Navy Officer." 
At which point, I'm rather suspicious because, we've had changelings impersonate crew vocally, and as far as everyone knows, that officer isn't on station.
[Security] [Security Officer] Vasharr Zahirn says, "Prrroof it." 
[Security] [Security Officer] Vasharr Zahirn says, "Changelings can mimic voices." 
[Security] [Security Officer] Vasharr Zahirn says, "He wants prrroof they'rre not a changeling imperrrsonating centcom." 
At which point by then, I'm at the armoury, recharging my gear, and if it actually was a centcom staff, I'm expecting a regular centcom anouncement to confirm it, so we can all go about our business. If not, It's probably the same voice changing changeling.
Only to find out the officer decides to prove their centcom another way, and ghosts above me to drop a bomb on me, blowing a hole in the armoury.
Picture of the armoury expolosion: https://gyazo.com/acd13354515e81086acf3d73e6b43514
As far as I know, Impersonating centcom has been done by traitors and changelings in the past with no OOC reprecussions. 
I find blowing someone up for asking a relatively reasonable question excessive, and doesn't make sense in the context of the round. Otherwise, centcom could just blow up the changelings when discovered, and we wouldn't have issues.

As of now, I'm not really sure who the admin was, And I'm not really looking for a punishment for them. I'd just like to ensure that response doesn't become the norm, since it took a player, (admittedly myself) out of the round.

Edited February 23, 2020 by RadiantFlash
Confirmation of admin by others.

[Abydos]

Admin's version of events:

The Head of Security was attempting to make deals with Enemies of the Corporations, mainly Changelings, in attempting to both sell out who the changelings are, as well as trying to get them to kill another changeling in exchange for letting the person live. The Head of Security took up the deal, didn't inform Security but only informed Command, to which Command fax'd CC about the whole situation. Command was fax'd back that the Head of Security is not authorized to do the deal, and that changelings are KoS, and cremated by space law.

The Head of Security ignored this and tried to continue, to which an Officer from CC told him the law, and to set the changeling to be executed as he was the only one with knowledge of it. He kept delaying and refusing, to which got him set to be executed as an aiding and abetting charge for hiding a changeling and not allowing security to set him to be executed. The Captain, the Magistrate and even the HoS himself confirming it was Central Command within Security comms.

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[2020-02-23T22:07:41] SAY: Jeneta Milosm (95,115,2): Security, the Head of Security is to be charged with aiding and abetting a changeling. He is to be executed and cremated. - SOO

[2020-02-23T22:07:43] SAY: Argyro Lakkotrypis (98,138,1): I need you to arrest the HoS. - Captain

[2020-02-23T22:07:53] SAY: David D. Delaine (0,0,0): Its treason - HoS

[2020-02-23T22:07:40] SAY: ARMA-492 (107,166,1): Sec arrest the hos and kill him and burn him - Magistrate

[2020-02-23T22:07:47] SAY: Moog (111,136,1): so the HoS is set to execute - NT Rep

[2020-02-23T22:07:58] SAY: ARMA-492 (109,159,1): Orders of cc

[2020-02-23T22:08:03] SAY: David D. Delaine (0,0,0): CC I TOLD YOU

You've got the Magistrate, the Captain and even the HoS who was having actions taken against him confirmed by them, with the NT Rep also confirming it as he written the fax and got one in return. The HoS was even set to be executed by CC themselves and started sparking a manhunt, running from Security, hiding, calling treason on CC and trying to spark Security into a revolt which got all of CC's attention, but you demanded proof and CC saw no point in writing up a general announcement for everyone just to confirm it was CC for one officer who refused to believe four members of Command, an execution order and the CC themselves telling you with their ID plain to see, so you got BSA'd instead as proof.

Admin's reasoning for actions:

The above

Acknowledgement of wrongdoing or disputing of:

While it is true, that I could of written up an announcement, there was little point to send a general announcement to appease 1 person who didn't believe 4 members of command, the execution order you could of looked up yourself, the fax that Command was holding from CC and the officer themselves confirming it. Further more, this one sentence you said is taken completely out of context.

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[Security] [Special Operations Officer] Jeneta Milosm says, "Warden.. I'm Central Command, Navy Officer." 

When the actual conversation was

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[2020-02-23T22:07:41] SAY: Jeneta Milosm (95,115,2): Security, the Head of Security is to be charged with aiding and abetting a changeling. He is to be executed and cremated.

[2020-02-23T22:07:43] SAY: Argyro Lakkotrypis (98,138,1): I need you to arrest the HoS.

[2020-02-23T22:07:47] SAY: Moog (111,136,1): so the HoS is set to execute

[2020-02-23T22:07:40] SAY: ARMA-492 (107,166,1): Sec arrest the hos and kill him and burn him

[2020-02-23T22:07:53] SAY: David D. Delaine (0,0,0): Its treason

[2020-02-23T22:07:58] SAY: ARMA-492 (109,159,1): Orders of cc

[2020-02-23T22:07:59] SAY: Jeneta Milosm (95,115,2): Warden, you're the new Head of Security.

[2020-02-23T22:08:03] SAY: David D. Delaine (0,0,0): CC I TOLD YOU

[2020-02-23T22:08:14] SAY: Gratian Faqua (124,185,1): might I remind you that our boss is first the HoS and then the captain? - Warden

[2020-02-23T22:08:19] SAY: David D. Delaine (0,0,0): They are fools.

[2020-02-23T22:08:19] SAY: ARMA-492 (113,180,1): Hiding information about clings

[2020-02-23T22:08:19] SAY: Gratian Faqua (124,185,1): you are not in the chain of command

[2020-02-23T22:08:24] SAY: David D. Delaine (0,0,0): Ls It's ok boys.

[2020-02-23T22:08:27] SAY: ARMA-492 (113,180,1): that is aiding and abetting

[2020-02-23T22:08:32] SAY: Jeneta Milosm (95,115,2): And I told you five times, to set that person to be executed and announce their name to security, you did not, so you're hiding an enemy of the corporation and aiding them.

[2020-02-23T22:08:36] SAY: Gratian Faqua (125,183,1): I will follow captain orders

[2020-02-23T22:08:38] SAY: Jeneta Milosm (95,115,2): Warden.. I'm Central Command, Navy Officer.

[2020-02-23T22:08:38] SAY: Gratian Faqua (125,183,1): not yours

[2020-02-23T22:08:44] SAY: David D. Delaine (0,0,0): I DID

[2020-02-23T22:08:53] SAY: David D. Delaine (0,0,0): I TOLD YOU THE FIRST TIME I GOT THE FUCKING MESSAGE

[2020-02-23T22:08:55] SAY: Gratian Faqua (113,180,1): captain

[2020-02-23T22:08:59] SAY: Jeneta Milosm (95,115,2): Your boss's boss, I'm the boss of them.

[2020-02-23T22:09:00] SAY: Gratian Faqua (112,180,1): should I arrest HoS?

[2020-02-23T22:09:04] SAY: Argyro Lakkotrypis (116,179,1): Yes.

[2020-02-23T22:09:08] SAY: Vasharr Zahirn (113,169,1): Prrroof it.

[2020-02-23T22:09:13] SAY: Jeneta Milosm (95,115,2): So when I order the Head of Security to be executed and cremated, it's followed.

[2020-02-23T22:09:13] SAY: Vasharr Zahirn (113,169,1): Changelings can mimic voices.

[2020-02-23T22:09:24] SAY: ARMA-492 (115,180,1): get the hos now as this is the final say of cc anyone resisting this order will be facing the same punishment

[2020-02-23T22:09:32] SAY: Vasharr Zahirn (105,171,1): he wants prrroof they'rre not a changeling imperrrsonating centcom.

 

Edited February 23, 2020 by Abydos

[RadiantFlash]

Seems like I missed all of the head of staffs vouching for the CC officer over comms while I was in surgery. That makes this a lot more unstandable, if still a bit excessive.
I woke up and the first thing I heard was the warden was in charge.

[Abydos]

1 hour ago, RadiantFlash said:

Seems like I missed all of the head of staffs vouching for the CC officer over comms while I was in surgery. That makes this a lot more unstandable, if still a bit excessive.
I woke up and the first thing I heard was the warden was in charge.

If you were unconscious, and not aware of the things that was going on, that is entirely my fault then. I had assumed you had listened to everyone else and still decided to call the CC Officer a changeling. I was very busy with dealing with the manhunting HoS, and was mean with how I handled the situation of CC proving it was them. I apologize for that as I was the only admin on at the time and had other things taking up my attention, not an excuse nor justification on my part. I fully accept that it was a bad spur of the moment and entirely my fault, with another apology going your way.

Edited February 24, 2020 by Abydos

[necaladun]

Thanks for submitting this,

I've looked over how this was handled and talked to Abby about it, and it's clear this is a situation that should not be repeated and was not acceptable.

I believe Abby won't be repeating this mistake, and that other admins are aware to not do such things.

I'm happy to resolve this, but if you'd like to add more I will leave this open for a few more days.

[RadiantFlash]

Nope! I'm happy to have this resolved as well. ^^
Thanks for the response.