NewTotse Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) I am unable to submit this as a pull request, so I am doing it here: ## What Does This PR Do This PR changes the mechanic's pod bay doors to 4 tiles high instead of 3 tiles high, and changes the adjacent maintenance tunnel to match the change in shape. ## Why It's Good For The Game This is good for the game because it prevents being able to block the podbay doors with a single pod. This also could allow for up to 3 pods to be stored at a given time with enough shuffling and creativity. With the current set-up it's much easier to get blocked in purely by accident, where this gives just a tiny bit more room to move around, so an experienced mechanic has more room to work on and move pods around, where a less experienced mechanic has the opportunity to learn pod shuffling. Intentional blockage is still possible, accidental blockage is slightly less likely, but guaranteed blockage is reduced. Edit1: Changed 'Why it's good for the game' to be more descriptive of why it could actually be good for the game. cyberiad.dmm Edited May 3, 2021 by NewTotse Expanded upon reasoning. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) This doesn't quite block the ability to trap a pod--just slide in via the middle two tiles. Indifferent otherwise. EDIT: I misunderstood OP's intentions. Disregard, this seems fine to me. Edited May 21, 2021 by Spacemanspark Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTotse Posted May 3, 2021 Author Posted May 3, 2021 I may have misspoke. I'll try to think of a better way to explain the general thought process behind the change. Basically though with the current set-up it's much easier to get blocked in purely by accident, where this gives just a tiny bit more room to move around, so an experienced mechanic has more room to work on and move pods around, where a less experienced mechanic has the opportunity to learn pod shuffling. Intentional blockage is still possible, accidental blockage is slightly less likely, but guaranteed blockage is reduced. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carthusia Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 It would be nice if it was even a bit bigger, their entire job is to make pods, but their current bay only holds 1 pod. Personally I feel it could be big enough to hold 4-6 pods and thatd be good. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTotse Posted May 3, 2021 Author Posted May 3, 2021 I think it would be possible if that maintenance tunnel was reconfigured a little with the only bottleneck being the exit door. I'll load it up and play around with it a little bit and report back. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourierAsy Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) Wasnt there a post just like that a few months ago that wanted to revamp the mechanic job and create a space mining thing and the final decision was that this was not the focus of the people in the station? Edited May 3, 2021 by CourierAsy Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTotse Posted May 3, 2021 Author Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) Here's what I came up with. I give you: The Pod Construction Area! As you can see, it houses 4 pods comfortably, everything for making pods has been moved to the new area, and the surrounding maint tunnels have been tweaked to allow for the new area. I actually just had an idea for a whole different design that might work even better than this. I'm going to start an alternate design and if the thread hasn't bumped by then attempt to update this post with the alternate design. Edited May 3, 2021 by NewTotse 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterankyl Posted May 4, 2021 Posted May 4, 2021 YES! The mechanic needs more space for pods. One change I'd make is removing the windows in the construction area. Maintenance in general shouldn't have windows, as it makes it easy to spot antags without them being able to easily retaliate or hide. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTotse Posted May 4, 2021 Author Posted May 4, 2021 Just the ones facing the maintenance tunnels, or in general? Here's an alternate design I threw together: Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carthusia Posted May 4, 2021 Posted May 4, 2021 This is a design i usualy build ingame when I go mechanic, lots of pod storage, and a work space. Side note: Im not sure why the mechanics bay always has reinforced floors, they cant be floor painted so they always gota be wrenched up to apply proper floor textures and markings. Personally im in the opinion that the bay should in no way have reinforced floors simply for better asthetics, its not like it needs explosion resistant floors. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTotse Posted May 4, 2021 Author Posted May 4, 2021 I like your design. I was afraid it would cut too much into that maintenance tunnel and I saw that big empty room lol. I figured it was like that to make it look more industrial Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S34N Posted May 5, 2021 Posted May 5, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 1:13 AM, BlackDog said: Side note: Im not sure why the mechanics bay always has reinforced floors, they cant be floor painted so they always gota be wrenched up to apply proper floor textures and markings. Personally im in the opinion that the bay should in no way have reinforced floors simply for better asthetics, its not like it needs explosion resistant floors. This is due to pods having the ability to explode. You would want the only places they can enter the station to be reinforced against this. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliminator Posted May 5, 2021 Posted May 5, 2021 Only concern with this is reducing the amount of maints space we have on the station. Maints is already very cramped- It would only be compounded by this. Otherwise, definitely a good idea. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carthusia Posted May 5, 2021 Posted May 5, 2021 8 hours ago, S34N said: This is due to pods having the ability to explode. You would want the only places they can enter the station to be reinforced against this. But...fuel tanks are literally everywhere and punch holes in more things than ive ever seen a pod do. While a pod can explode, does the bay really need to be as reinforced as the RND test lab that explodes on a daily basis? Not even the toxins test site has reinforced floors and its designed to resist explosions for test purposes. Personally, if someone wishes to reinforce the pod bay, that's up to them, but id wager most people would rather just customise it easier. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewTotse Posted May 6, 2021 Author Posted May 6, 2021 9 hours ago, Charliminator said: Only concern with this is reducing the amount of maints space we have on the station. Maints is already very cramped- It would only be compounded by this. Otherwise, definitely a good idea. Yeah, it's a hard trade off. More space for more pods at the expense of less maints space. One thing to keep in mind is that part of the area I took out for the pod construction room was literally just space with glass around it. Personally I've only ran into people hanging out in maints a few times, but I do see your concern, as when I do run into people it's always like a group of 10. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliminator Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 On 5/6/2021 at 1:26 AM, NewTotse said: Personally I've only ran into people hanging out in maints a few times, but I do see your concern, as when I do run into people it's always like a group of 10. this isn't necessarily the issue. the issue is antags having less room to operate/fight sec. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/20684-make-mechanic-pod-bay-4-tiles-high/#findComment-155438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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