DocSocrates Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) (New Argument) http://80.244.78.90/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2366&start=20&sid=64b566331b2d0c49d232a73ee20cdf79&sid=64b566331b2d0c49d232a73ee20cdf79#p13777 Hello, today I would like to suggest that the HoP's office be outfitted with shutters for his two windows and counter. Here is my argument: (Skip around if TL'DR) The HoPs Role on the Station The HoP, as we all know, "is in charge of assigning and reassigning crew members correctly and making sure station departments are well-staffed and running optimally" (From the Wiki's HoP Page). The HoP deals a majority of the station's crew. Even members of different departments need to talk to the HoP about receiving more access to their departments, not the *heads of their own department. The HoP also holds plenty of power on the station. If the HoP wanted, he/she could give everyone that walks through his/her line Captain status and access, and allow them to go wherever the captain goes. This, although is illegal in-game, is a power that the HoP has. What am I getting at? The HoP is somewhat important. *A good HoP would ask the heads if said crew-member is allowed to have access to that part of the station. Still, the crew member must visit the HoP for this access Why add shutters? First, let's examine other offices in the station. 1. Captain's Office It's secure, has plenty of access requirements. The bridge, can be locked down, ensuring no access to the bridge and the uppermost door (Unless hostiles are already on the bridge). The only other way to get in is by three sets of doors (If you don't use the teleporter). What am I getting at? This office is private and secure. But wait, aren't we talking about shutters? Yes, but the captain has no windows besides the bridge, which has shutters. 2. CMO, RD, CE, and HoS Socrates, none of these offices have shutters either. Yes, they don't but to get to the office itself requires access to their departments, that the public doesn't have. They're secure in the fact that the general populous doesn't simply walk by. They don't need shutters like a office with public windows. What's a public window? A window where the public walks by. Streaky pointed out The CMO actually has blast doors. This further proves how the HoP has the least amount of protection. 3. NT Rep and IAA Given the fact that they may need privacy to talk about Centcom related issues, they both have offices with public windows, and they are both given shutters. Although both of them do not have a counter that anyone can climb onto and break into the office *cough cough*, they still have shutters and the HoP doesn't. 4. Chef Bork bork gets shutters to inform everyone that he is either closed or working. I wounder if the HoP should be able to show if his office is closed. Get to the Point Shutters provide privacy, the ability to "Close down shop", and provide some protection. The fact that other offices get shutters while the HoP doesn't even when the HoP's office is the most public office in the station. Wait, doesn't HoP's office NEED to be public for his job? Yes, shutters aren't going to make his office any less public then it already is. All the shutters will do is allow the HoP to create an office of privacy, so he can talk to the captain or anyone else that decides to walk into his office. I agree, security of the office is extremely low, in say nuke op rounds, it is very risking trying to get all access IDs as it is so exposed. Thanks for reading, please comment so this can be seen. Here's a cat picture (not mine) for your time! http://imgur.com/gallery/7GIuwTB Edited October 1, 2014 by Guest Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrin-Kanthos Posted August 23, 2014 Posted August 23, 2014 I really like this idea. It was well thought out and expressed elegantly. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 23, 2014 Author Posted August 23, 2014 I really like this idea. It was well thought out and expressed elegantly. IMO I think I just kinda threw it together, but if it gets the message across, it works. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrin-Kanthos Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 I only want to add that maybe we should give the NT Recruiter shutters too. They have a similar issue, but are very isolated. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 24, 2014 Author Posted August 24, 2014 I hope this gets some notice Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 I agree, security of the office is extremely low, in say nuke op rounds, it is very risking trying to get all access IDs as it is so exposed. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 24, 2014 Author Posted August 24, 2014 I agree, security of the office is extremely low, in say nuke op rounds, it is very risking trying to get all access IDs as it is so exposed. Something to add to my argument... Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted August 24, 2014 Posted August 24, 2014 The CMO actually has blast doors. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 25, 2014 Author Posted August 25, 2014 The CMO actually has blast doors. Ok, but that still proves that the HoP has the least amount of protection. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habalabam Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 If this was added, people in general could easily tell the difference wether HoP office is closed or just "out for the moment". Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 25, 2014 Author Posted August 25, 2014 If this was added, people in general could easily tell the difference wether HoP office is closed or just "out for the moment". This Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 If the HoP gets some, the NT Rec could use some too. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 25, 2014 Author Posted August 25, 2014 If the HoP gets some, the NT Rec could use some too. Yes, I believe this was mentioned earlier. I would like this argument, however, to be focused on the HoP Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted August 25, 2014 Posted August 25, 2014 I wouldn't say there's much of an argument here, just unanimous support. Your issue is finding a mapper to do this. Webster is the obvious option, but he's taking time off at the moment. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 26, 2014 Author Posted August 26, 2014 I wouldn't say there's much of an argument here, just unanimous support. Your issue is finding a mapper to do this. Webster is the obvious option, but he's taking time off at the moment. Aye, there hasn't been any real arguments against this issue, (or atleast in the replies to this thread) I call this an argument because I'm raising points and countering any thoughts a reader may have against this topic. Hopefully Webster, when he returns, will see this thread and consider the shutters. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 28, 2014 Author Posted August 28, 2014 Today is my birthday Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrin-Kanthos Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 Wow, mine too! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 28, 2014 Author Posted August 28, 2014 Wow, mine too! shiiiiit, how old are you? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrin-Kanthos Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 27, you? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted August 29, 2014 Author Posted August 29, 2014 27, you? Ah, 18 here. Fun to find people with same birthdays. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 Bumping because this is still valid/relevent Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted September 14, 2014 Author Posted September 14, 2014 Bumping because this is still valid/relevent Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
block1 Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 This should definitely be added, sometimes the HoP needs to take a break or is away from his office. Maybe the shutters can have a little stickied note on it saying "On break!" Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted September 16, 2014 Author Posted September 16, 2014 This should definitely be added, sometimes the HoP needs to take a break or is away from his office. Maybe the shutters can have a little stickied note on it saying "On break!" Yes Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-12999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSocrates Posted September 22, 2014 Author Posted September 22, 2014 I'm not letting this topic die. I will, however, be adding a new argument soon. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2127-hop-shutters-new-argument/#findComment-13101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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