Winterherr Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 I just found out that the laywer got replaced with the Internal affairs manager. Im confused on why paradise doesnt have the lawyer. Was it never here in the first place or did it get removed? 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/23486-no-lawyer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerYote Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Winterherr said: I just found out that the laywer got replaced with the Internal affairs manager. Im confused on why paradise doesnt have the lawyer. Was it never here in the first place or did it get removed? So the Internal Affairs Agent is sort of a lawyer but not quite. They're more concerned with upholding NanoTrasen standard operating proceedure and sometimes Space Law. They can put a case for a prisoner forward to security but they are under no obligations to listen to them, and if the IAA is being disruptive, they can be blacklisted from the brig. Generally, Space Law concerns fall under the domain of the Magistrate. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/23486-no-lawyer/#findComment-170093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonador Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 IAAs do generally serve as lawyers. When not taking the initiative around the station to ensure departmental SOPs are being followed within reason, they do act as case advocates for people brigged improperly or facing security abuse. I wasn't aware there was a lawyer role, it's been IAA ever since I started playing here years ago, and the codebases I played prior otherwise didn't have anything resembling either. Working in tandem with a Magistrate, which is kind of Lawyer/Judge combination who carries actual enforcement authority over the security division, they form the station's full legal team. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/23486-no-lawyer/#findComment-170095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landerlow Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 We used to have a lawyer role/alt title for the IAA quite some time ago. I'm not sure why it got removed though. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/23486-no-lawyer/#findComment-170123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
procdrone Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Landerlow said: We used to have a lawyer role/alt title for the IAA quite some time ago. I'm not sure why it got removed though. propably to avoid asshats harrasing security over every single minor crime/arrest Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/23486-no-lawyer/#findComment-170126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ID404NotFound Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 8 hours ago, procdrone said: propably to avoid asshats harrasing security over every single minor crime/arrest That is in fact what would happen, IAAs who take it on themselves to be an antagonist to sec rather than an oversight, nevermind going through SoP for any other part of the station Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/23486-no-lawyer/#findComment-170127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeepyGoop Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Wish we had something like a lawyer. I cannot say that I have EVER seen an actual hearing. Usually when sec nabs a baddy, theres a short meeting with the HOS and then straight into a cell/perma. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/23486-no-lawyer/#findComment-174571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanR Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 99% of all crimes on station don't really need a trial. The few that do there's no time for one because of other issues. Lawyers and trials just aren't a good regular fit for Spacestation 13. 2 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/23486-no-lawyer/#findComment-174575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamon Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 ^ 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/23486-no-lawyer/#findComment-174579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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