Admin complaint: Meow19

[Auce]

Admin(s) Key: meow19
Your ckey (Byond username): Auce
Your Discord name (if applicable): Auce

Date(s) of incident (GMT preferred): oct 6 ~11:50 am

ROUND ID: ?

Nature of complaint: Feedback
(Select all that apply: EG - clarification required, misapplication of rules, misconduct, abuse of powers, feedback, other)
Links to all relevant ban appeals for any bans related to this complaint: N/a

Brief description (tl;dr here. Just the critical elements): Given admin note, no interest in RP gimmick

Full description of events: On cult round, was a clown who decided to create a cult museum full of stolen/abandoned cult artifacts. Was wandering maints checking for hidden doors to find more pieces to add to my locker. Admin summarily bwoinked and told me I was either getting noted or banned depending on if i left the maints immediately. I told them my gimmick and they had no interest, insisted I was validhunting or intentionally trying to get converted. Just trying to do clown things and getting punished is a pretty huge feel bad.

[necaladun]

Hi there, apologies for the delay in handling this - the heads have been very busy (and one has had to step down because of this) so I'll be handling this on their behalf, after getting their approval to deal with it.

In a case like this it appears there's been a miscommunication - due to the nature of the current threat and situation, Meow has clarified they meant that they were telling you to leave maints as a specific case for the current situation, not as a general case that being in maintenance isn't allowed.

This is because they believed would you continue, then a valid-hunting style situation would occur very shortly, or you would end up converted. Specifically looking for cult bases and cult artifacts is generally going to end up in conflict like this. 

You're not in any trouble for this or under threat of a ban, nor does the note indicate anything negative towards your attitude or behaviour. It was more simple notekeeping that is done with pretty much any interaction with players, and so it is noted you were made aware of the valid hunting rules in case a similar situation occurs in the future and you claimed ignorance - sadly a lot of players try to pretend they've never heard or a rule or been warned, despite clear evidence it has happened before. Notes are not a form of punishment - they're honestly more tedious bookkeeping for the admins than anything. No matter what you did, there would be a note about this situation.

As for the threat of the ban, I think you might be misremembering the conversation a bit - understandable, it can often be intimidating to be bwoinked by an admin. I'll post it here for transparency's sake:
 

Quote

Meow19: gotta tell you, being in maints looking for hidden cult bases aint a non sec job

Auce: im looking for cult artifacts

Meow19: can you get out of maints so i can leave a note and we'll end it at that?

Auce: can i ask why what i did was against the rules

Meow19: in cases like these its usually valid hunting rule breach or the "getting intentionally converted" part of sellf antagging 

Auce: yeah its neither of those, my gimmick was i was collecting cult artifacts

Meow19: yeah im glad! the note will stay, to indicate you are aware not to do this in future.

Auce: very fun thanks

All in all, this is a non-issue from the admin perspective and just a minor thing often done to make sure a situation doesn't occur where you could be in danger of being seen as valid hunting or getting intentionally converted.

Please let me know if you need further clarifications or have any questions, myself or another staff member will be happy to answer when time permits.