a ruling by dearmochi

[Damian]

Admin(s) Key: dearmochi
Your ckey (Byond username): grandalff
Your Discord name (if applicable): unapplicable

Date(s) of incident (GMT preferred): do not recall

ROUND ID: 41371

Nature of complaint: misapplication of rules
Links to all relevant ban appeals for any bans related to this complaint:

Brief description (tl;dr here. Just the critical elements): Admin ruling fair use of s-class which I feel is incorrect.

Full description of events: During the round whose ID is stated above, a security officer disarmed me, a changeling, of an energy sabre after I pulled it out due to being being cornered (EMP bolting/depowering doors/depowering APC) and used it to kill me. I see this as fine as it was disarmed mid combat in self defense and used for self defense. But then they holstered it, started bringing me to chapel, and when I awoke near the sci lobby (cyberiad) they instantly pulled it out and hunted me using it from sci to dorms pod and nearly into space until I stole it using a tentacle.

Admins ruling was "Considering you revived in her face on the way to Chapel, I am inclined to consider it still acceptable for her to use the cutlass to dispatch a very obvious changeling." which feels iffy, as it was still use of s-class it was not for immediate self defense as in the case prior.

[DoctorDrugs]

First thing I will say before getting into this AC is that I am sorry for how long it has taken to get a response to this, there's no reason it should've taken so long to get a response to this and a resolution as the time between now and when this was made was so long ago. After taking a little bit to look into the logs of the round and confirming a couple things I can say this complaint is without merit due to what lead up to what transpired. Just to refresh the memory on what happened, you and the sec officer were fighting in maints, they managed to disarm you of the energy cutlass, used it to kill you and started to drag your body back to the chapel. Having revived in the middle of being dragged it is reasonable to assume they would've used the one thing they had left to dealing with you since they were otherwise drained or out of other means of preventing you from running off. IF this had been a case of them using it on you long after you escaped and had more than enough of chance to drop the cutlass off as evidence and failed to due so then they would be at fault for using S-class as security, we've allowed security officers to use S-class in very limited situations such as being out of means of fighting back and using what they took from an antag while still in the middle of a fight.

[DoctorDrugs]

seeing as this is 3 weeks+ since the last response, will be marking and moving it as resolved