Why I think the Vox changes should be rolled back

[PJB3005]

 

https://github.com/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/pull/87

 

Done

 

[SpaceTimeNow]

Neat, thanks!

[Diseasel]

 

I love you guys so goddamn much. <3

 

Many hugs from the Arkship; see you on the station, Meatbags!

 

[Fox McCloud]

 

I absolutely do not want the magclaws coming back for on-station Vox (trade/raid is fine); it's a free pair of no-slipping booties that also makes you immune to atmos (that don't even slow you down); it's a whole lot of free power to give a race just because of lore. While lore is awesome, gameplay and game balance trumps it. If you want to take the effort to get the pair from EVA? Completely fine with that, but them starting off with a pair is no dice.

 

If you want to start with the large N2 tank, that's fine, though it would be best if it started out in your hand as opposed to your back, so as to not mess up backpack item spawns (since a lot of unique items start in your backpack).

 

For the appearance of shoes on Vox; this is largely just a matter of someone creating the custom on-mob sprites for them; as I said, the code for them to be able to wear shoes and use alternate sprites is already in place as we speak, it's just someone has to create the actual sprites (right now they're copy-pastes of the original). If people want to make custom on-mob sprites for Vox for shoes, I'm more than up for including them so they don't look so silly.

 

[PJB3005]

 

that don't even slow you down

 

well, actually you nerfed them right before the commit this topic is about, unless you reverted that.

 

since a lot of unique items start in your backpack

 

actually, most of the time vox spawn with a plastic bag with their backpack in it, there are some jobs for which this doesn't work though

(geneticist is the first that comes to mind)

 

well whatever, i'll modify the commit

 

[Fox McCloud]

 

that don't even slow you down

 

well, actually you nerfed them right before the commit this topic is about, unless you reverted that.

 

And somehow, those changes didn't stick, for whatever reason; even if they're re-nerfed, it's still a lot of free power without gameplay or real reason.

 

actually, most of the time vox spawn with a plastic bag with their backpack in it, there are some jobs for which this doesn't work though

(geneticist is the first that comes to mind)

 

Still find this odd; the vast vast majority of players I see who play Vox spawn in with their proper equipment, backpack, and the likes.

 

[Diseasel]

 

I can't say this doesn't really aggravate me, especially since 60% of Vox players want Magclaws back, and I never ever heard of balance complaints until you changed it. Either way, I can't stop you if you're adamant about newVox being only Vox.

I still think the idea of a separate setting of oldVox such as PJB3005 implemented is a good idea.

 

So if back-Nitrogen-tank was a character setup option and Magclaws are available from EVA to certain jobs, what does that leave us with? Vox now have blood and can't be resurrected?