fludd12 Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 This was a topic over in bug reports for some reason, so I am putting the general information here. Right now, here's the buff/debuff list for Greys: Buffs: Telepathy on startup Sulphuric acid is to greys as water is to humans. Debuffs: Super Unrobust Water is to greys as sulphuric acid is to humans. I really only got greys for their amazing spawning with telepathy, but telepathy is INCREDIBLY nerfed. 10 second delay, and only when the person you're contacting is on screen and you're not passed out. Now, I can understand making it for only people on screen, as otherwise you might discover antags before they do anything, but the 10 second delay? The restriction to being awake? Sort of unnecessary, especially when this requires you to have one of the easiest to exploit weaknesses out of any race, unless you bother to do genetics for half the round. Thoughts? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkvA Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Telepathy is being re-buffed in the next patch. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/#findComment-17444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrin-Kanthos Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Um, how would telepathy while unconscious work? Thought you had to be conscious to send messages anyway. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/#findComment-17447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fludd12 Posted December 20, 2014 Author Posted December 20, 2014 It is programmed to deny you trying to use telepathy while unconscious, which sorta sucks if you keep on passing out and you want to tell people what's wrong. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/#findComment-17455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrin-Kanthos Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 No I mean how could you use telepathy if unconcious? That part makes sense. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/#findComment-17470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plotron Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Unconscious telepathy = OP. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/#findComment-17473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fludd12 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Posted December 21, 2014 The telepathy button is still there when you're unconscious. Also, since we're keeping the range limit on telepathy, there's not much you could do with unconscious telepathy besides direct someone through your own surgery. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/#findComment-17476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipping Out Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 THe button is irrelevant. Just because it is there, you can't use it whenever you want. It's unavailable while unconscious for 2 reasons. FIrst, because you have to THINK to use telepathy, and when you are knocked out, you don't do an awful lot of that, and secondly, it would be WAAAAAY to overpowered, as you would screw up antags way too hard. What about when you are para stung, or sleepy penned? 'Halp! Urist McChangeling is ateing me!!1 don let him griff me!' Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/#findComment-17495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fludd12 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Posted December 21, 2014 What kind of changeling are you that you can get away with eating someone in front of half the station? The point is, since the range is limited to people you can see, it would be DIFFICULT, to say the least, to alert someone to your problem. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/#findComment-17513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipping Out Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 That is the point! Making it difficult to alert those around you. THIIIIISSSS is what we have been saying! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2870-buffing-greys/#findComment-17548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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