Svej Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I'm not sure who thought it was a good idea to throw every console into bridge for no reason. Looks to me that most of the consoles were just added to fill empty holes, why does bridge need mining shuttle control? Cargo supply console? Teleporter control? The old look of bridge was much better imo. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Teleporter Control doesn't even work. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkvA Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) Thirded. Needs a redesign. Edited December 23, 2014 by Guest Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruerlund Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Opposed. The bridge of any type of structure is always a area, where you are able to take control of the majority of the systems on board without having to run to every part of the station. For me a bridge is the switchbox, where all the wires lead and can be turned on and off. The old bridge sure was a bridge, but it didn't have this sort of command-type feeling. Basicly IMHO the old bridge was just a collection of offices held together by the little bridge area. Now the bridge feels like a proper bridge where you are able to interact with the majority of the systems. As a Captain you're now longer stuck with staring at a few glasses and a shuttle computer which can barely be used for anything. You can keep yourself up to date, monitor systems and actually make sure the station is running. The bridge is now a proper bridge. I very much like it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkvA Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Well, it should at least be reshuffled to look a bit better. Right now it's just a line of consoles, which doesn't exactly look good. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svej Posted December 22, 2014 Author Posted December 22, 2014 Well, it should at least be reshuffled to look a bit better. Right now it's just a line of consoles, which doesn't exactly look good. Yeah, it looks pretty bad right now. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruerlund Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Well, it should at least be reshuffled to look a bit better. Right now it's just a line of consoles, which doesn't exactly look good. Yeah, it looks pretty bad right now. Agreed, it may look a bit bad, and that teleporter console may be useless, but I don't think that the OLD design should be brought back. Perhaps, move the new Gravity Generator down and use the "space" space to give more room for the bridge. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermote Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Here's a draft design for the bridge that I put together awhile ago for an entirely different map. It wouldn't fit in the present station, but it's something that could be worked off of. The AI was intended to have blast doors only it could control, to close it off from the bridge if it wanted privacy. I also have a cool sprite for a holotable that never got used anywhere. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruerlund Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Here's what I pictured. Get it pictured? *chuckles* Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur_Dayne Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) +1 The new layout is both ugly and makes entering the bridge without access much harder. Also makes it harder to put my desk anywhere. Edited December 22, 2014 by Guest Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruerlund Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 -1 *giggles*The new layout is both ugly and inefficient. Also makes it harder to put my desk anywhere. I find it hard to see how this is inefficient. From what I can see you now have more ability to control the station, thus it being more efficient as a bridge. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plotron Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Here's what I pictured. Get it pictured? *chuckles* Kinda solves the problem of a random console-fest. I like your idea, makes the Bridge look cosy. I just don't like these two new windows (conference room, captain's office). Also the holopad is hard to access (what if TComms are down?), the table with paper/paper closet are obsolete and take up precious space and some tiles could be adjusted (blue stripes). Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Revert it back to the old bridge design and go off there. All the consoles look terrible and useless. I also feel that the move of the AI to the sat really needs some discussion, it feels like it would be FAR too easy for antags to destroy or sabotage the AI. Low risk, extremely high reward. Transit tubes are also terrible. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson1027 Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I am not very keen on the new layout as well, What I am enjoying is station based command posts with consoles that are correlated. Fruerlund , in my opinion, has the best console setup. It divides the bridge into sectors (think like star trek ship decks) where a person who is in charge of that can monitor portions of the ship that are in need based on an area. Looking for a criminal as the hos? go to the security station, check cameras, set people to arrest. Looking to fix atmos as a ce from the bridge? go t the engineering station! It is a well thought out system that could be edited to fix current problems. still +1 for wanting to fix all nine million consoles in a line. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plotron Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I also feel that the move of the AI to the sat really needs some discussion, it feels like it would be FAR too easy for antags to destroy or sabotage the AI. Low risk, extremely high reward. Transit tubes are also terrible. Easy for antags, hard for angry mobs during malf AI rounds. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson1027 Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I also feel that the move of the AI to the sat really needs some discussion, it feels like it would be FAR too easy for antags to destroy or sabotage the AI. Low risk, extremely high reward. Transit tubes are also terrible. This please. Transit tubes make me cry. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svej Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 Here's what I pictured. Get it pictured? *chuckles* That looks very nice compared to the current console cluster. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Problems with this: Bridge takes up a huge amount of room. Computers block bullets and lasers, firefights in the bridge are some of the best possible, this would destroy them. Still has the utterly useless consoles. I really have no idea why more consoles then what the original had are needed for. For the medical/sec records, you either have access to them with your HUD glasses, can just head over to your department or don't need to access them. Would someone please explain why the heads would ever need access to the shuttles? Hard to access things like air alarms and APCs quickly. Moving around is pretty awkward (lots of people+chicane=horribleness) Most of these also apply for the current bridge. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plotron Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Fj45, I see it as a temporal fix for our current bridge. If they want to keep this terrible layout (console fest) - let them, but I want the newly proposed version to replace the current one, since it's a slightly better design. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Oh yes, can't disagree with that. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
belarion Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 As it is now, the bridge is just a really ugly block line of consoles, I don't care what the finished one is like. The current one is so ugly anything would be better. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysfist101 Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 Bridge takes up a huge amount of room. Computers block bullets and lasers, firefights in the bridge are some of the best possible, this would destroy them. Honestly, I prefer having it that way. In every sci-fi movie that I've seen that involved a firefight in the bridge, the one console that the heroes needed ends up with a brand new hole in it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plotron Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 Well, you can no longer laser nukies through the windows... blame the consoles. Can anyone make Fruerlund's version live? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Bridge takes up a huge amount of room. Computers block bullets and lasers, firefights in the bridge are some of the best possible, this would destroy them. Honestly, I prefer having it that way. In every sci-fi movie that I've seen that involved a firefight in the bridge, the one console that the heroes needed ends up with a brand new hole in it. That would already happen, the bridge computer would almost always get damaged in fire fights. But currently, its impossible for any side to shoot eachother. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-17923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plotron Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Heh, currently I am seeing that the AI core is indeed one of the least safe places on the station. It keeps getting blown up during nukies and even gets meta'd in xeno rounds. Not fun dying 10-20 minutes into the round. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2889-bring-back-the-old-bridge/#findComment-18151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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