andrewmeythaler Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 So during the summer sale I picked up Warhammer 40K Space Marine, and Warhammer 40K Dawn of War II. I heard there may be some fans here. So is there anything I should know before I play them? Also I can't get Dawn of War to work. It keeps crashing every minute or so. Anyone know how to fix this? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 You have picked up the shittiest of the warhammer games. About the DoW2 it might be just my personal opinion but I find it craptastic. DoW2 unpatched has some major gamebreaking bugs with win7. Patch and pray it works. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-17903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afelirick Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 The majority of the CTD issues I was able to find were GFWL related, but it seems GFWL has been patched out of DoW2, and it's fully steamworks, now. So that shouldn't be your issue. Unless you haven't updated it. However, Space Marine is a fairly enjoyable game. Not the greatest, but a pretty good time. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-17933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeletedUser Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 I can confirm, Games for Windows life broke DoW2 a lot, patch it and it shouldnt be an issue. Most of the playerbase agree that DoW1 is better than DoW2. DoW2 changed the genre a bit, becoming a lot more tactical RTS, and well... the DoW2 multiplayer is barely playable, i recommend you just playing The Last Stand. And about Space Marine, well I enjoyed it a lot and finished the game several times. It's pretty much just a normal FPS, but... if you play it as an FPS you are doing it wrong, you have a chainsword and a thunder hammer for a reason. There are little things more satisfying than gibbing a mob of orks by diving into them with a jump-pack and smashing the ground with the thunder hammer. And then there are mods. They don't add a lot, but finishing the game on the highest difficulty setting with the Angry marine armor and using only melee weapons and the pistol is pretty fun. http://puu.sh/dLadu/626a65c7bd.jpg http://puu.sh/dLa3P/d5562a57cb.jpg http://puu.sh/dLacr/fdbfc5f244.jpg http://puu.sh/dLabZ/b647a8f22a.jpg Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-17964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewmeythaler Posted December 28, 2014 Author Posted December 28, 2014 I was totally wrong! I got Dawn of War 1 not 2! I kept playing it going, "Man whats wrong with you guys, this is awesome!" Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrin-Kanthos Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 I was totally wrong! I got Dawn of War 1 not 2! I kept playing it going, "Man whats wrong with you guys, this is awesome!" 2 took all the base building out, made units far weaker and less varied, and made you focus on heroes the entire campaign. I hated juggling all the hero abilities and such... I played Tyranids to beat it as they only had 1 hero. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewmeythaler Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 I was totally wrong! I got Dawn of War 1 not 2! I kept playing it going, "Man whats wrong with you guys, this is awesome!" 2 took all the base building out, made units far weaker and less varied, and made you focus on heroes the entire campaign. I hated juggling all the hero abilities and such... I played Tyranids to beat it as they only had 1 hero. I fucking hate having to deal with making heroes in Warcraft. How are you supposed to manage an army when you are having to micro manage to abilities of some diva hero. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeletedUser Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Well yeah DoW2 has that, though in Retribution you can choose between the hero or a squad of veteran soldiers. Personally i played with the heroes, giving them all terminator armor is pretty lulzy. Or equiping your commander Hairgel with the classic jumppack+thunder hammer. IMO the funniest abilities are in DoW2 retribution, where Cyrus can solo entire missions while remaining unseen, the stormboy nob can fly off screen with a "WAAAAAaaa..." leaving a thick trail of smoke and then land "..aaaaaAAAAAGH!!" with a great groundslam gibbing everybody around. The Lord Commissar maxed with a single *BLAM* turns all your guardsmen inmune to damage, making them annihilate everything in range and even punch through tank hull, and you can even target the *BLAM* at the enemy, one-shotting terminators. From the campaigns in Retribution, the ork one was by far the funniest one. And here is a sample of the abilities in DoW2 Retribution. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Dobbins Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Did you remember to thin your paints? Besides, IMO the games are no real alternative to actually having the minitures, plus Space marines are nowhere near as cool as Tau or Dark Eldar, and then the base game is nowhere near as cool as battlefleet gothic. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewmeythaler Posted January 3, 2015 Author Posted January 3, 2015 Did you remember to thin your paints?Besides, IMO the games are no real alternative to actually having the minitures, plus Space marines are nowhere near as cool as Tau or Dark Eldar, and then the base game is nowhere near as cool as battlefleet gothic. Please explain that whole last bit. I don't understand what the hell you said. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Dobbins Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Snip. Please explain that whole last bit. I don't understand what the hell you said. I'm saying that Battlefleet gothic, which is a space-based naval game in the vein of Starfire is far superior to the original warhammer 40k game, although I only know like 2 people that play it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeletedUser Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Space marines are nowhere near as cool as Tau or Dark Eldar Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereticChurch Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Space marines are nowhere near as cool as Tau or Dark Eldar I saw that reply coming a mile away. But all the games mentioned here look really neat. I should get them... Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewmeythaler Posted January 3, 2015 Author Posted January 3, 2015 Tabletop or vidya? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Space marines are nowhere near as cool as Tau or Dark Eldar How can you even compare the fishfaced space commies and Edgy space elves of angst to glorious catholic space nazis?! Green is best, ya git Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Dobbins Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Space marines are nowhere near as cool as Tau or Dark Eldar How can you even compare the fishfaced space commies and Edgy space elves of angst to glorious catholic space nazis?! Green is best, ya git Green is okay. Marines are just straight up boring. Due to the fact that everyone and their grandmother starts out with them they are baseline. I run an IG army, tallaran desert raiders ( think Dune meets lawrence of Arabia) and a tau army, I'm tempted to cell the tau and get dark eldar. ADR, please stop with TEH ANGRY MAHREENS. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeletedUser Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Fine, have a happy guardsman. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Dobbins Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 When I said TEH ANGRY MARINES, i meant any 40k meme from /tg/ other than moaning about the 5th edition marine codex, which was an ultramarine circlejerk when everyone knows imperial fist based chapters are the best. EDIT: I don't hate /tg/, some of their homebrew codexes are brilliant, but if I want /tg/ humor I'd go to 1d4chan ( it has a pretty good ss13 page as well) Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 by space marines are boring, do you mean ultramarines? Ultramarines are boring. Space Wolves, Salamanders, carcharodons, blood angels and iron hands are all pretty fucking interesting. Space Vikings, Cool Black guys, SPACE SHARKS, Utter Nutjobs and space marine tech priests in that order. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Dobbins Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Some of the marines have some interesting fluff, but I just don't find supersoldiers that interesting, plus on the table they are utterly middle of the road My old Marine army which i sold years ago was an Imperial fist based chapter. IMO, the Necrons, some of the better guards regiments (I saw one that came straight out of the film Zulu), and Father Nurgle have the best fluff. Edited January 5, 2015 by Guest Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 I, uh, know nothing about WH40K, but it looks interesting. I particularly want to try out the WH40K conversion of SS13 sometime. How to WH40K? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereticChurch Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 From what I've learned, it's not hard to WH40k. You either praise a chaos god and piss off Adr, or get angry at heretics who praise chaos gods and post pictures of angry marines and stuff. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone White Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 I, uh, know nothing about WH40K, but it looks interesting. I particularly want to try out the WH40K conversion of SS13 sometime.How to WH40K? Play a computer game, pick up a book, browse a wiki, play the tabletop, or play the (excellent) pen and paper rpg from fantasy flight games (which I've been doing for the last two years) 40k is full of references to characters from specific events, or items, or groups. So it's basically a lore fest for neckbeards, so it helps to have someone fluent in 40k lore to explain your missed references. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 the pen and paper games are great. I tried a bit of the tabletop wargame but it's far too expensive for me. The only tabletop games I can ever seen to get are from old friends on /tg/ and sigurd who invite me to their rogue trader and dark heresy games. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewmeythaler Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 the pen and paper games are great. I tried a bit of the tabletop wargame but it's far too expensive for me. The only tabletop games I can ever seen to get are from old friends on /tg/ and sigurd who invite me to their rogue trader and dark heresy games. Can someone explain the difference between tabletop and pen and paper? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/2951-warhammer-40k/#findComment-18710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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