necaladun Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Soon we'll be switching over! This is the new set of laws. Once we're comfortable with it, it'll be official. For now it's a shift-by-shift basis. http://nanotrasen.se/wiki/index.php/Space_law I'll make a new thread about this. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Soon we'll be switching over! This is the new set of laws. Once we're comfortable with it, it'll be official. For now it's a shift-by-shift basis. http://nanotrasen.se/wiki/index.php/Space_law I'll make a new thread about this. Hooray! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Crime pictures for wiki! Indecent exposure Posession of an explosive Posession of a weapon Posession of a restricted weapon Resisiting arrest Riot/mutinity Sabotage Sexual assault. (yes I was committed to my quest) Trespassing Vandalism Creatign workspace hazard Assault/attempted murder/assault with a deadly weapon Assault of an officer/head Grand theft-grand B&E Contraband-enemy of the corp. Drug posession Drug trafficing Grand sabotage Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Enemy of the corporation should be a picture depicting something like . Everything else looks great. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
necaladun Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Enemy of the corporation should be a picture depicting something like .Everything else looks great. Yeah that one is prolly best to adminboose. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbits Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 The clarification of laws and standard operating procedure looks good, I like it. My only concern/ complaint is that a prisoner's sentence begins counting down as soon as they are brought to their cell instead of once they are securely put away. Specifically, I'm worried about how it interacts with Code 101 - Resisting Arrest. If a person can only be charged for a 101 once per arrest, then they have no reason to stop resisting once they've been brought to their cell: Their timer will continue to count while they keep dicking around. Perhaps a note or clarification could be added to Code 101 stating that prisoners actively resisting during the brig phase have their timers reset upon being locked up? I know there's a note about adjusting a felon's timer after being properly put away ("Modify their brig sentence for additional offences or good behavior, if applicable.") but I feel this sort of thing can/will end up being a semi-regular occurrence. Or not. Who knows, we'll see. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbits Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 The clarification of laws and standard operating procedure looks good, I like it. My only concern/ complaint is that a prisoner's sentence begins counting down as soon as they are brought to their cell instead of once they are securely put away. Specifically, I'm worried about how it interacts with Code 101 - Resisting Arrest. If a person can only be charged for a 101 once per arrest, then they have no reason to stop resisting once they've been brought to their cell: Their timer will continue to count while they keep dicking around. Perhaps a note or clarification could be added to Code 101 stating that prisoners actively resisting during the brig phase have their timers reset upon being locked up? I know there's a note about adjusting a felon's timer after being properly put away ("Modify their brig sentence for additional offences or good behavior, if applicable.") but I feel this sort of thing can/will end up being a semi-regular occurrence. Or not. Who knows, we'll see. Neeevermind! I see now that there is an "Escape from Brig" modifier which resets the prisoner's timer. I think this is sufficient to discourage a prisoner from being a pain in the ass. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Pics They look great but they need to be the same size and more "generic." The drugs one fits perfectly though! I might be able to get a few pics done myself. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Yeah, many of these need some adminbus or some actually creative person doing them. All of the pictures were done in a time period of 1,5h during a round where I got objectives to commit as many crimes as I can and get pictures for wiki. Better ones can be done, I'm sure of it Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Haddock Posted March 7, 2015 Author Posted March 7, 2015 Assault of an Officer Major Crime 15 Min sentence - Criminals who attempt to disarm or grab officers while fleeing are guilty of this, even if bare handed. I don't want people to be brigged for 15 minutes because they pushed an officer over while trying to flee. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
necaladun Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Assault of an Officer Major Crime 15 Min sentence - Criminals who attempt to disarm or grab officers while fleeing are guilty of this, even if bare handed. I don't want people to be brigged for 15 minutes because they pushed an officer over while trying to flee. This, and assault being a 10 minute charge, seem controversial, and understandably. Previously we had battery and minor assault. ...I'm actually gonna make a new thread in suggestions as I was intending to do before. Bear with me. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumiluntti Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I fully agree on the notion of adding battery/minor assault to the list. Helps a great deal for instance when a clown is being a massive dick and sliplocking people constantly. You then have a valid reason to arrest the damn thing without it having a semi-valid reason to scream shitcurity with the power of million greytiders. "ehmigerd honk is be arrested for slip!!1 is not assaults!!!! no harm doneded, is shitcurityyyy!" It would be more of a "not cool, man. Stop being an ass." punishment than the current assault sectence that should in my opinion be reserved for actually harmful behavior. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Also, not every single picture should be of a Vox or a clown for that matter. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machofish Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Overall, I feel as if our new space law is encouraging-- No, mandating the security department to act like shit. This realization came upon me when I was looking at an old post I put on our 'stories of shitcurity' thread, where I wrote something along the lines of: " officer tried to brig engineer for 15 minutes just for throwing a bag at him. That uncivilized troglodyte!" Yet now, 15 minutes would be considered a pretty average sentence, for our laws. The primary difference I'm seeing is that TGs law expects several charges to be laid for a single incident. Yet we are using Bay's brig times that expect officers to apply no more than one or two charges at the most for a single incident. To make a point, let me compare our current version of Space Law (as of March 13, 2015) to the TG space law that we've based it on: http://www.ss13.eu/wiki/index.php/Space_Law TG's Crime Sentencing: Minor charges: 1 minute. Medium charges: 2 minutes (+1 minute increase over a minor charge). Major charges: 5 minutes (+3 minute increase over a medium charge). "In the event of a sentence exceeding the 10 minute limit of the timer inform the Warden so he may add the rest of the time later." Paradise's Crime Sentencing: Minor charges: 5 minutes. Medium charges: 10 minutes (+5 minute increase over a minor charge). Major charges: 15 minutes (+5 minute increase over a medium charge). "In cases where the final sentence is more than 60 minutes, it is changed to a perma-brig sentence." I have the utmost respect for Paradise's staff. However, all things remaining equal, I am of a firm stance that the new laws essentially encourage and enforce shitcurity. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-24594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artorp Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Plz remove the nod to the old Space Law article on the notice/header. Redirected it to the new article. If people want a reference to the old laws, use this link: http://nanotrasen.se/wiki/index.php?tit ... oldid=4103 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-25543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telvayne Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Also, not every single picture should be of a Vox or a clown for that matter. That's called 'Profiling' and it's just good police practice. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-25686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Also, I might mention that /tg/'s Space Law is only used on /tg/ as a suggestion... a guideline. Even the person who wrote it states that it should only be a suggestion. Personally, I don't mind which Space Law we use, provided we have an actual set Space Law. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3482-space-law-overhaul/page/3/#findComment-25701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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