Citinited Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Currently, outer space has a lot of easy-to-obtain loot and is therefore very, very powerful. For example you can get: Lots of space suits Lots of power cells A laser gun A stunbaton (from Buzzsky, but he spells death should you get accosted by him) A spacepod And a lot more stuff. At the moment outer space doesn't really pose any challenges apart from requiring some way to survive in space and doesn't feel very interesting once you know where everything is. Adding in some syndicate NPCs on the DJ station, derelict, etc., or maybe some combat drones on non-station z-levels would help liven it up. I appreciate that this would make it death for anyone who's accidentally spaced, though. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Yeah, wouldn't mind adding a good bit more space content. ..I just noticed your avatar is a gif. Thats fun. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Unfortunately adding in more space content as long as telesci exists is rather pointless, as it just becomes "find good stuff, mark it down; powergame the hell out of it round after round". Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJB3005 Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Unfortunately adding in more space content as long as telesci exists is rather pointless, as it just becomes "find good stuff, mark it down; powergame the hell out of it round after round". more like look at the map in DM Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citinited Posted February 28, 2015 Author Posted February 28, 2015 Unfortunately adding in more space content as long as telesci exists is rather pointless, as it just becomes "find good stuff, mark it down; powergame the hell out of it round after round". Death mobs wouldn't be a thing telsci would want teleporting in unless they're antag. it kind of sucks that telsci stops new content being added, though. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Unfortunately adding in more space content as long as telesci exists is rather pointless, as it just becomes "find good stuff, mark it down; powergame the hell out of it round after round". Death mobs wouldn't be a thing telsci would want teleporting in unless they're antag. it kind of sucks that telsci stops new content being added, though. Well, it's more of the case of: -anything interesting/valuable in space will inevitably be marked and telescienced in on most rounds (ie: swat helmet, baton, etc) by powergamers -teleblocking individual items is going to get annoying and won't be viable in a lot of cases Thus, we're really only left with two options: -remove telesci -nerf it into the absolute ground Side note: Space will be cold again, some time....eventually. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veganzombeh Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Another option would be to semi-randomize the spawning of loot in space. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachomeep Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 I like that idea. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthdivine Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 That won't solve much, they will just ping those spots eventually, the randomized would hurt space explorers more then Telescience. Which is why I'm so glad about the Gateway maps, as far as I know you can't telescience them since they aren't on a z level, rather then a different map, allowing us to do the cool stuff without worring about it being zapped away 5 minutes into the round. I mean, the Emitter Maze and the Abandoned Outpost atleast have a chance to kill you collecting the stuff if you messed up, telescience doesn't have that worry. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachomeep Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 How about we make telescience stuff randomized? I dont know one thing about how telescience works, mind you. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 How about we make telescience stuff randomized? I dont know one thing about how telescience works, mind you. It already is, but ultimately it still follows a formula. As much as I love telesci, it really does kinda suck the fun out of far-off locations, once those locations are found. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3653-make-outer-space-more-challenging/#findComment-23993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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