Fox McCloud Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Ok, I'll cut straight to the chase with this one: currently the pod sprites we're utilizing on Paradise are Goonstation's pod sprites. These were taken from VG---VG did not acquire them legitimately; they didn't ask for the and they didn't notify Goon or anything--they just took them and used them----and since we used VG code in a few spots....now so are we. As a show of good faith and as a way to give our own unique spin on things---I'd like to open up a request; that all pod sprites be redone. Every sprite in icon/48x48/pod_construction.dmi , icon/48x38/pods.dmi, and icon/pods/ship.dmi will need to redone for all the essentially stolen sprites to be purged. Please note that due to the high quality of the sprites currently being used, the requirement for the replacement sprites will be very high--please don't design a sprite unless you're prepared for it to get out and out rejected. For those interested, it may be best to stick to doing one pod or a mockup of an idea for a single pod before tackling the entire project in one big go. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Also, I would recommend making your sprites as modular as possible, more variety is always good so help make that possible. No idea about greyscaling, if anyone knows how to do that, it may be a good solution. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienhaus Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I'm totally spriting an Arwing. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 It was, indeed, my idea to make arwings. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienhaus Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I'm submitting this as my base. There will be changes made but for the most part this is it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 I'm submitting this as my base. There will be changes made but for the most part this is it. I support this design. =D Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienhaus Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Mock of syndi Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZomgPonies Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Umm I spoke to hmm I think MagicMountain back in the day, and those Goon sprites for the pods had been publicly shared by the sprite designer. As far as I know, Vg has permission to use them, and so do we. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannhawk Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 i might be able to pull off a cargo hauler version of one of the ships submitted here. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osha Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Is there still going to be a new icon for pods, considering what ZomgPonies has said? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 Umm I spoke to hmm I think MagicMountain back in the day, and those Goon sprites for the pods had been publicly shared by the sprite designer. As far as I know, Vg has permission to use them, and so do we. When I spoke with a Goon coder the other day they (and another Goon coder) were under the impression it was still a very touchy subject with "a lot of residual grump" surrounding it because we were still (1)using them (2)they were never publicly released. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienhaus Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I'm still making these either way, I made another design. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienhaus Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZomgPonies Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 If you're making new designs, you need to take into consideration all 4 directions, and the way they need to move around space. If the movement looks wonky, then they aren't as good as the current sprites. As for residual grump, I don't care what the CODERS think. As long as the guy who sprited them gave permission, that's really all that matters. Same with any other gooncode that gets released. As long as the author gives permission, there's no ambiguity. Some goon coders will never be happy stuff gets legally released, there's nothing we can do about those guys. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienhaus Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Well the current pods are just rotated so that's not hard to do. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannhawk Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Well the current pods are just rotated so that's not hard to do. a bit icky if im going to modify them for cargo...damn crates attached to the backs of ships. otherwise just keep it coming until we get the right thing we want to sprite in all direction. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wubbledaddy Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3890 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 http://nanotrasen.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3890 That still uses the basic Pod Sprite that we currently have, it would be like taking a chicken and adding a hat to it and saying it's an entirely different thing. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted March 27, 2015 Author Posted March 27, 2015 I'm still making these either way, I made another design. I'm partial to the first design and this one (mostly the first) In any event, I'd really love to get some more community input and feedback on this. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Personally, if we can keep using the Goon sprites, keep using them. Nien's pods are awesome sprites but I personally don't like em as a pod. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osha Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 There is one big gripe I have concerning the concept. No offense to Nienhaus, and feel free to refute my presentation. But, no matter how you look at it, this is your thing. An Arwing. I know there was a screeny against it, but it still will look like it. Nope. Sorry, we're not making snowflake references like this; it's been our policy for quite a while now and was pretty much fully instituted when we axed all the admin offices on centcomm. This is a reference, to a game you've based your reference off of. It may not have been your idea, but it will still very much look like it if we use these sprites. And really, I think that this icon line is atleast one inkling inspired by that one maintainer Fox McButt. And we have enough of these references with simple_animals like Renault/foxes entirely.. A huge no from me. And if this came off as a personal attack, I'm sorry, but I couldn't let this pass my mind. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienhaus Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 That was kinda the joke, I just wanted to sprite an Arwing. And part of why I made other ones. Also don't worry, it didn't come off as a personal attack, I see where your are coming from. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-25637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldflame Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 I prefer the new design, personally. As well as this, avoiding controversy at all is probably better than risking it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-27506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted April 27, 2015 Author Posted April 27, 2015 Anyone else want to take a crack at this or, Nien, are you willing to continue work on this? Would still like to resolve this so it's not a sore spot between communities. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-27653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigercat2000 Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 I don't see what there is to resolve, after what Ponies said. If the original spriter gave permission to use these, then whoever is sore about it should take it up with that spriter. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/3867-request-pod-sprites/#findComment-27654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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