Fj45 Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 The server pop is too damn high. RP has gone down. Snowflakes and metafriending is cropping up. Rounds are a mess of greytide and chaos. There just aren't enough admins to handle this many players. The map isn't made for this many players. Hell, after a certain point (70+) it just becomes impossible to balance the game for the population. Please, the server either needs to delist often (but for no longer then three days) or there needs to be a population cap.....50 would work. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portinari Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 I agree that once server pop goes over a certain number the station is difficult to manage. Near 100 players it becomes absolute chaos. A solution is definitely needed. Delisting during peak hours sounds like a good plan. It deals with the greytide without affecting server population too much during slower periods in the weekdays. It will need someone who can set the server's listed and unlisted status on a regular schedule, however. Population caps are a bad idea though. That will just keep good players out during peak hours, unless there's a form of whitelist (Which is a bad thing for obvious reasons). This also won't take into account players who are just observing the round or ghosting after death, who by staying will block out people who actually want to play. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Posted April 14, 2015 Yes, all of those are the big issues with having a population cap. It is not my preferred solution. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthdivine Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 This hasn't come up for a while so I do not remember what the reason was but I believe Mel does not want the server to be delisted and to keep it public, either that or he wanted to keep it in one state rather then toggling it every week. Not to mention we have another server, if enough people start going over there more then more people would be inclined to join up. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 A population cap would just hinder us, in my opinion, unless it auto directs to the already delisted server. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fj45 Posted April 14, 2015 Author Posted April 14, 2015 The issues with the other server is that A: Nobody is ever on there B: There are no admins on or it stretches them across the two servers. Kei, that is the only way I can see a population cap working. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigercat2000 Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 This can be talked about for days, but in the end, it comes down to one simple sentence; Melandor has already stated that he is unwilling to constantly flux paradise on and off the listing. We are a listed server, however tough that might be to deal with. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur_Dayne Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 I recall a round with 101 players on, two staff. One trialmin, and one mentor, styla and myself. I remember a round with 76 players on, one staff. Myself. It happened again the next day. Please, please delist. Please. No-one will go to the second server, and I miss Paradise's RP, back when our peak population was 50 or so. Please, please delist. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portinari Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 As switching regularly is not on the table another possible solution is to delist the server for an extended period of time, let's say a week, then relist it once grey tide interest has moved to other servers. That way population should hopefully see a long lasting decrease while avoiding more then one or two switches. Care should be taken though to limit how long the delist is. Last time there was a extended delist the server nearly became empty during slow hours, and in my opinion that's almost worse than high pop at peak. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthdivine Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 As switching regularly is not on the table another possible solution is to delist the server for an extended period of time, let's say a week, then relist it once grey tide interest has moved to other servers. That way population should hopefully see a long lasting decrease while avoiding more then one or two switches. Care should be taken though to limit how long the delist is. Last time there was a extended delist the server nearly became empty during slow hours, and in my opinion that's almost worse than high pop at peak. That is exactly what we said we won't do. It has to be one or the other, Mel won't flip the switch constantly. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qinetix Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Listing the second server would be an ideea buuuut it would require the community to have WAAAAY more admins, so that seems out of reach. How about a bot that sends adminhelps and player complaints to a list with the life of a week or two (can be opened and read then things can be dealt with , even so this is pretty hard to deal with too). I'm out of ideas, delisting would be nice but if that's unreacheable now , someone might need to come up with a solution, or else we will just degrade to the point of disolving the community. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Dobbins Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Pull a yogstation and make "powergaming" and "validhunting" bannable offenses. Probably leading us into a hellish world in which the admins have to hand out bans like sweets and we lose any prestige we had as a server. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeletedUser Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Alternate unlisting will not hapen, it has to be done manually and Melandor0 clearly stated that it is not an option.The choices are to be either permanently listed or unlisted. And we already saw what happened when we unlist for an extended perion of time, our average playercount dropped from 50 to 10, forming skeleton shifts. And keep in mind that in some places the spring break just started, so we are getting an influx of players on vacations with nothing else to do. Hopefully this will end soon in a week or two. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/4019-population-cap-or-delisting/#findComment-26711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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