SpaceTimeNow Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 I think it's very confusing now that we now have so many places where suggestions are discussed: - The Suggestions forum - Code Discussion (Used like Suggestions forum 2) - Github Issues (This should only be for 100% Bugs, everything else should be closed) - Github Pull Requests (Here should be no more discussion as to why something is beeing done, that's what the suggestions are for) Sadly the actual Suggestions Forum is the place where topics go to die. Most topics will be buried somewhere below page 2 and just die out, warmed up with a new topic a few month later and die again. The Github pull request system is 10 times better, every pull request will get a definate yes or no before it dissapears. Not saying we should do everything thing in pull requests, but we need ONE similar system for suggestions. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5358-suggestion-forum-and-github/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigercat2000 Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Most suggestions here die either because: A. No coder takes a liking to it B. It's simply not feasible with BYOND C. It's an insane idea. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5358-suggestion-forum-and-github/#findComment-38957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceTimeNow Posted September 8, 2015 Author Posted September 8, 2015 Most suggestions here die either because:A. No coder takes a liking to it It's very inefficient just to let a good idea getting buried, just because nobody has time, or is willing or able to do it right now. If we would have a list of good or accepted ideas that would be really helpful helpful for everyone, even if this ideas happen far down the road (or never). And honestly i think it's quite rude just to let peoples work disappear unresolved into nothingness. B. It's simply not feasible with BYOND C. It's an insane idea. Just mark them as useless and remove them from the list. Then everyone knows this idea will not happen. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5358-suggestion-forum-and-github/#findComment-38961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigercat2000 Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 If no coders want to code it, and the person making the suggestion can't code it, nothing to do about it. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5358-suggestion-forum-and-github/#findComment-38966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex6511 Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 Okay. To be clear github issues are named that for a reason. It is not and never has been intended to only be used for bug reports. You are supposed to post anything that is precieved as a problem there. A look at popular gamintg related githubs will confirm this. https://github.com/acemod/ACE3 This is the github for a popular arma mod. You will notice that there's more than bugs on there, in fact they even use it to track various tasks and other problems not directly related to bugs. If it's not clear by my post, I am extremely against referring to the github issues area as a bug report section, as its named issues for a reason. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5358-suggestion-forum-and-github/#findComment-38970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauka Usanake Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 If no coders want to code it, and the person making the suggestion can't code it, nothing to do about it. Maybe it's not so much that no one or OP doesn't want/can't code it but rather they want it to be real and once putting it in as a pull request it gets shot down. I know that's a trial you live life by but it still sucks. I could try making a few of my suggestions yet not sure how far I'd get. The reason I don't though is because I'm still no one on this forum. Didn't intend to be at the start (but I think I'll be sticking around longer) so what place do I have for posting stuff to the community? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5358-suggestion-forum-and-github/#findComment-38974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex6511 Posted September 8, 2015 Posted September 8, 2015 The reason I don't though is because I'm still no one on this forum. Didn't intend to be at the start (but I think I'll be sticking around longer) so what place do I have for posting stuff to the community? I can't speak for everyone involved in the coding but I can tell you with reasonable confidence that almost every suggestion here gets at least looked at. As for posting stuff to the community as the whole, that is more difficult because a large portion of the community is "transient" meaning that paradise might not necessarily be their primary or only server they play on. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5358-suggestion-forum-and-github/#findComment-38991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigercat2000 Posted September 9, 2015 Posted September 9, 2015 Alex is technically correct, the issues section is not just a bugtracker. But it does piss off most of the coders if you put feature requests in there, when we have a suggestions form, it gets a lot harder to sort through when there are tons of "what if"'s in there. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5358-suggestion-forum-and-github/#findComment-39012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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