Nukkel Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I love Kidan race but I have a few problems playing as one. I can't seem to play as a security well without the HUD glasses as I can easily be flashed and can't see what their arrest status are, same goes for mining. You can't get meson scanners on your face which make it difficult to mine. There is more I am not stating but overall its annoying that there arent glasses for Kidan to wear, it makes some jobs harden to do or even impossible. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 If you don't like the disadvantages of playing a race, you shouldn't really play as them. Kidan are relatively balanced, and trade off this sort of "standard utility" to be all around more resilient (which is a huge advantage outright). Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I love Kidan race but I have a few problems playing as one. I can't seem to play as a security well without the HUD glasses as I can easily be flashed and can't see what their arrest status are, same goes for mining. You can't get meson scanners on your face which make it difficult to mine. There is more I am not stating but overall its annoying that there arent glasses for Kidan to wear, it makes some jobs harden to do or even impossible. And this is the price you have to pay for having a massive 20% brute damage resist without any other downsides. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyass Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 hit it with a nerf hammer! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 It was. It used to be able to literally block gunshots, taser shots, and laser shots. It made dealing with one a large level of FUCK. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Yeah, Kidan was one of the races that (thankfully) got heavily nerfed some time ago. They were literally Imperial battle tanks amongst a field of elf babies. Some kind of secgoggle would be neat for Kidan. Maybe researchable by Science? If it won't be a roundstart thing, it should be a research thing. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toroic Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Does kidan damage resist stack additively or multiplicatively? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plotron Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 If you don't like the disadvantages of playing a race, you shouldn't really play as them. I agree. I play Kidan because I like the quirks. I'm used to wearing prescription glasses on my other characters, so I don't mind the lack of Kidan eyewear. Get used to playing without HUDs and sunglasses and you will become more robust, more careful and even smarter. If you want to play a race with little downsides but with benefits, try Vox or plasmamen. They're EVA-capable by default, making them my go-to races for big emergencies (unless you die a lot, of course), with the latter race also being 100% bio proof. The biggest downside is that you die when you get stripped, but most people don't bother (they'd rather kill you outright). Plus, the plasmaman has an amazing helmet light! It used to be able to literally block gunshots, taser shots, and laser shots. Don't forget about grabs! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkel Posted October 20, 2015 Author Posted October 20, 2015 Alright alright I get it, because Kidan have 20% more armor they should not be able to wear some glasses that make the job you do more enjoyable -.- Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldflame Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Don't some servers have implants that give you one of the HUDs (I heard someone mention it). As a mid-tier science item that could make Kidan viable sec choices whilst still giving them a distinct disadvantage. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauka Usanake Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Don't some servers have implants that give you one of the HUDs (I heard someone mention it). As a mid-tier science item that could make Kidan viable sec choices whilst still giving them a distinct disadvantage. That sounds like the eye robotics integration that we don't have yet. Would be a nice addition eventually for all races Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Don't some servers have implants that give you one of the HUDs (I heard someone mention it). As a mid-tier science item that could make Kidan viable sec choices whilst still giving them a distinct disadvantage. Yes...but uh...HUD code is something on the order of a nightmare you just never want to experience. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousGlob Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Kidan meson mining helmets would be enough for me. They are a mining race and yet suck at mining? Makes no sense. It could be combined with a eva suit mod for kidan helmet and meson vision on mining. While it is a pain in some ways, Kidan security can be fun without sec huds, just people have to tell the names of people set to arrest on the radio. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkel Posted October 21, 2015 Author Posted October 21, 2015 Atleast give Kidan a security HUD, or else its really hard to do that job ^^ Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyass Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 it called implants. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 it called implants. And now we're back where we started. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyass Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 it called implants. And now we're back where we started. and the coders won't have nightmares to code in the implants for the security HUD Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 it called implants. And now we're back where we started. and the coders won't have nightmares to code in the implants for the security HUD I'm sure that they said this ↑(Security HUD implantation) was the problem. That or my reading skills are starting to deteriorate at an alarming speed. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyass Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Oh it's just you NTSAM. :3 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-42958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkel Posted October 30, 2015 Author Posted October 30, 2015 Bringing this suggestion back to life since I really want it, can anyone please decide if it can be ingame? You can't play security officer well. You can't play medical doctor well And you can barely play as a miner. Please give the Kidan modified glasses Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-43784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plotron Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 You can't play security officer well. You can't play medical doctor well And you can barely play as a miner. You can play security officer decently, but with limited tactical options. You can play medical doctor as well as a typical human. You don't need MedHUD for anything bar modifying records. Regarding mining - well, a shaft miner with bonus 20 brute armor sounds too good to be true. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-43788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 Well, medHUD does help determine your health, if I may remind you. . . I use it to determine who's needed to be prioritized. Mining and sec is meh. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-43789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TullyBBurnalot Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 The entire bloody point of Kidan is that they get that damage reduction in exchange for not being able to wear glasses. You have a fuckton of other races to choose from if you don't want that disability. I don't see why Kidan should be normalized for the sake of a minor improvement. You can play Medical perfectly well without HUDs (health analyzers take literally half a second to use on someone). You can play Security perfectly well without HUDs (hell, Detectives by default don't get HUD glasses and they do just fine). As for mining, sure, no mesons is an issue. But you can always make another character. Removing a species trait for the sake of one job is excessive. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-43790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plotron Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 Well, medHUD does help determine your health, if I may remind you. . . I use it to determine who's needed to be prioritized. My medical characters are all shortsighted. I'm telling you - I couldn't give less of a fuck about seeing who's in crit and who is not - all you need is a bunch of scans, and they're more precise. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-43792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousGlob Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 The only problem I have with it is Kidan are known as a mining race, yet are the worst miners on station. Mining helmets should have mesons installed on them by default considering that is what the suit's sole purpose is. Everything is fine except not being able to mine for shit. I would rather have a mobile security computer that can easily be read for new arrest warrants and just remove sec huds altogether, but thats getting off topic now. I always imagined Kidan would be able to sense different ores through the rock naturally using their antenna but I don't know anything that would really fit without something like OP natural mesons. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5726-kidan-modified-glasses/#findComment-43806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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