GelatinousGlob Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 What if we gave the barber brig access so they can shave prisoner heads to prevent lice? I mean they don't have jack else going on, they should have a straight razor for ghetto surgery and killing people but that hasnt happened despite multiple suggestions for it. The barber shop is in a shit area for traffic (especially for a karma job that has no purpose other than RP). Being able to shave prisoner's heads would give him a legit job to do and not get himself killed for shaving heads. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) They're basically civvies with a fancy shirt and scissors. Nooooooooooooooooooo.... You can do the exact same thing just by dragging the handcuffed people to the Barber Shop, with much less opportunity for greytide/grief/general trouble. Also, why in the FUCK would we give a fancily clothed civilian A FUCKING MURDEROUS WEAPON from roundstart? And please don't respond "cuz it's fun" because that's a fucking stupid excuse. EDIT: And rarely ever does Security EVER let prisoners interact with eachother. Giving the barber brig access to shave hair "for preventing lice" is a stupid excuse as well. Edited November 10, 2015 by Guest Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldflame Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Selling brig access for karma isn't a good idea at all, frankly. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousGlob Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 Whats wrong with giving people murderous weapons? The bartender has a shotgun, the chef has knifes and a hacked machine that gives cleavers. Science can make a shotgun and make pulse slug shells that destroy reinforced walls and the floor underneath. Atmospherics has a fireaxe. Chemistry has access to plenty of death shit. Surgeons and doctors have access to circular saws and scapels. Janitors have bear traps. ect ect. Plus brig physician has brig access no problem, same with IAA and the Detective. Its not like there will be a wave of 20 barbers coming in to raid the brig, that is ridiculous. Its not like they couldn't arrest and take away barbers access if it was abused anyway. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 1) It's that we already have too many jobs with weapons. This is not Call of Duty in space, you do not deserve a weapon just because you want one. If this was the case, we'd be Greystation 13: Tide at War, and I'd absolutely fucking hate that. 2) Brig Physicians are allowed in the brig because that's their fucking job. A barber cuts hair for no reason but aesthetics, no where does it state who's hair they should cut, and so if people want the barber to shave them/style their hair they should theirselves or bring the dudes that needs a haircut to the fucking barbershop. A Brig Physician nurses wounded, brigged personnel back to health, and more often than not said brigged personnel is in CRIT, which requires IMMEDIATE AID. It's justified. Same with Detective, they often have to stand by the dude held in custody to show their evidence. IAAs are buttbuddies with security and will often overlook arrests. Just put a shaver in the Warden's locker if you want to shave prisoners, simple as that, Jesus fuck. 3) I laughed, thanks for that! ^u^ Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousGlob Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 I would be fine with barbers if they could actually change peoples hairstyles not not just shave their head. Barber has literally one mechanic, which other people can walk in and do themselves, which is shaving heads. They can't change people's hairstyle, its pretty shitty when you try to RP a barber and 99/100 times have to go ooc to tell them to change their own hair with the mirror. If nothing is going to be done with the barber it might as well be removed or at the least removed from karma shop. Plus its not like a straight razor would be some OP as shit thing. People can get glass shards and scalpels and shit with ease, I don't see how starting with a glorified scalpel would make people go mad and eviscerate everyone they see. If you don't want to add more shit for other people, you need to start removing the OP shit from everyone else. You act like this is a chucky cheeses where you can only give people plastic safety scissors. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Scissors can change hairstyles. Bartenders get those scissors at roundstart. Traitor bartenders can get neck-splitting scissors which cause bleeding and some pain. Making a straight razor that basically does what the traitor scissors do but without the TC cost is just utterly fucking stupid and pointless. Also, the barber HAS been changed to be more on the RP side. In fact, there was an update that made the job make sense about like 6 days ago: https://github.com/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/pull/2472 Edited November 11, 2015 by Guest Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmage199 Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Scissors can change hairstyles. Bartenders get those scissors at roundstart. Traitor bartenders can get neck-splitting scissors which cause bleeding and some pain. Making a straight razor that basically does what the traitor scissors do but without the TC cost is just utterly fucking stupid and pointless. Also, the bartender HAS been changed to be more on the RP side. In fact, there was an update that made the job make sense about like 6 days ago: https://github.com/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/pull/2472 Erm, sure you mean "Barber" and not "Bartender"? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 oh Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousGlob Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 I didnt see the update, there hasnt been a changelog update in a long time now and I don't read through github changes daily. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauka Usanake Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 https://github.com/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/pull/2472 Darn, now I want to try playing as a barber Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousGlob Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 It would still be nice to have a straight razor to change peoples facial hair instead of scissors, mainly because I could use it as part of my ghetto 16th century barber-surgeon character where I use only improvised ghetto tools for surgery. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 You could probably ask for it as a donation fluff item. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauka Usanake Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Yeah, use a straight razor to do facial. Scissors for head hair Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regen Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 They're basically civvies with a fancy shirt and scissors.Nooooooooooooooooooo.... You can do the exact same thing just by dragging the handcuffed people to the Barber Shop, with much less opportunity for greytide/grief/general trouble. Also, why in the FUCK would we give a fancily clothed civilian A FUCKING MURDEROUS WEAPON from roundstart? And please don't respond "cuz it's fun" because that's a fucking stupid excuse. EDIT: And rarely ever does Security EVER let prisoners interact with eachother. Giving the barber brig access to shave hair "for preventing lice" is a stupid excuse as well. Calm the fuck down, your point is not more valid because you increase the size of your profanities. The job gets a "murderous" weapon when they are a traitor, and traitor only. It's a fun murder tool to use that goes well with the job, it's not super OP and it's not game breaking. You'd be better off just eswording the guy to death if you just wanted him dead, this just adds more flavour Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/5878-barber-additional-access/#findComment-44997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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