Medical Job SOP --- Complete!

[TullyBBurnalot]

 

Medical Job SOP: Complete

 

 

Greetings, aspiring SOP writers. If you've clicked this thread, then you're either interested in contributing to Standard Operating Procedure, or are merely interested in seeing how it's going. Therefore, I shall begin by explaining what this (soon-to-be) megathread is all about:

 

Part 1: What is this?

 

Approximately 4 months ago, Necaladun approached me with a personal project of his: a complete overhaul of Standard Operating Procedure, meant to centralize SOP in such a way that allowed for more interaction with the Legal sub-Department, more actual guidelines on how to conduct one's performance, and generally formalize what was once only nebulous guidelines in an effort to get everyone on the same page.

 

This was the project that led to the current version of Security SOP. However, it was left half done, as Necaladun took his leave shortly after Sec SOP was added, and the project crumbled from lack of interest/time. However, I continued the project, but only recently picked it back up in full. The point of this megathread will be to, at the end of the line, have a single, well-defined, centralized Standard Operating Procedure that everyone can look at and fully comprehend, without any self-contradictory information. This, of course, will be changed in the Wiki, which is still the main source of information for the playerbase.

 

 

Part 2: How does it work?

 

Seeing as I actually have most of this stuff already written down, the process will be quite simple, and I'll break it down in stages:

 

Stage 1: Selection of which part of SOP to look at, out of provided options (because we have to start somewhere). This will be done via poll;

 

Stage 2: Proposal of new SOP. This will come from myself, again, because I have pretty much most of it already written down, so we have a solid base to go from;

 

Stage 3: General feedback from the community. This is the main part of the process, as it will be the one where everyone can pitch in, say which parts are right, which parts are wrong, what should be changed, etc;

 

Stage 4: Amendments made to SOP based on this feedback, and continued discussion, until a finalized version is produced;

 

Stage 5: SOP is posted on the Wiki;

 

Stage 6: Refer to Stage 1

 

Do keep in mind the following: everyone is permitted to pitch in. If you believe you have anything to add to the discussion, please do, but do try to keep this on track and problem-oriented, otherwise we'll never get off the drawing board.

 

 

Part 3: What does it entail?

 

The following are the proposed additions to this new, centralized SOP:

 

 

1. Security Job SOP; (added by Necaladun before he took his leave)

2. Engineering Job SOP;

Medical Job SOP;

Service Job SOP;

Supply Job SOP;

Science Job SOP (finalized!)

 

 

In addition to the basic SOP for each Department, I also propose:

 

 

1. Departmental SOP (as in, general guidelines for each Department that everyone should follow); (stricken to avoid bloat)

2. Command SOP (in-depth SOP for each member of Command, not in Guideline form); (yes in Guideline form, the hell was I thinking?!)

Legal SOP (standardization of Legal procedures and the action of the Legal sub-Department);

A revised General SOP, for each Color Code. This will include Safety Regulations

 

 

As you can see, this is a rather big project and, as such, will be tackled in small stages. At each point, the completed section of SOP will be crossed out, and a notification written. At the end of the journey, a single, massive Standard Operating Procedure page will be added to the wiki, with all the above SOPs for everyone to look at. In addition, of course, to their own specific pages.

 

And now, you've reached the end of the page. It's time to start, ladies and gentlemen.

 

Edited February 29, 2016 by Guest

[Shadeykins]

For reference, where is the Security SOP on the wiki located? It's got to be labeled poorly, as I can't find it and it's not referenced in any pages that I know of.

[TullyBBurnalot]

 

It's on the individual job's Wiki pages.

 

... I'll get to work on a centralized page.

 

[TullyBBurnalot]

Right, seeing as Medical is QUITE CLEARLY winning, let's get to work....

[necaladun]

 

Right, seeing as Medical is QUITE CLEARLY winning, let's get to work....

 

Good, but is it going to cover more than surgeons?

 

(Get it? Standard OPERATING procedure? huehuehuehuehue)

 

[Knightedskull]

 

....I'll grab the syringe gun.

We don't need clowns flushing doctors down in disposals again T_T

 

[Regen]

 

Right, seeing as Medical is QUITE CLEARLY winning, let's get to work....

 

Good, but is it going to cover more than surgeons?

 

(Get it? Standard OPERATING procedure? huehuehuehuehue)

 

ಠ_ಠ

 

[TullyBBurnalot]

 

There are 5 unique jobs in the Medical Department: Chief Medical Officer, Medical Doctor, Virologist, Paramedic and Chemist. For the sake of completeness, we'll also include a minor section on Surgery.

 

Foreword: Job SOP should not be a considered a checklist of conditions to fire someone over. As always, SOP can be malleable if the situation so requires, and the decision to punish a crewmember for breaching it ultimately falls onto the relevant Head of Staff, for Department Members, or Captain, for the Head of Staff.

 

Proposed Job SOP is as follows:

 

Chief Medical Officer:

 

 

1. The Chief Medical Officer is permitted to carry a regular Defibrillator or a Compact Defibrillator on their person at all times;

2. The Chief Medical Officer is permitted to carry a telescopic baton. In case Genetic Powers need to be forcefully removed, they are cleared to carry a Syringe Gun;

The Chief Medical Officer is not permitted to allow the creation of poisonous or explosive mixtures in Chemistry without express consent from the Captain or, failing that, the presence of a clear and urgent danger to the integrity of the station, except of course in situations where Chemical Implants are required;

The Chief Medical Officer is not permitted to allow the release of any virus without a full list of its symptoms, as well as the creation of a vial of antibodies, to be kept in a secure location. The virus may not have any harmful symptoms whatsoever, though neutral/harmless symptoms are permitted;

The Chief Medical Officer must make sure that any cloneable corpses are, in fact, cloned

 

 

Medical Doctor:

 

 

1. Though not mandatory, it is recommended that Doctors wear Sterile Masks and Latex/Nitrile gloves when handling patients. This Guideline becomes mandatory during Viral Outbreaks;

2. Nurses should focus on helping Medical Doctors and Surgeons in whatever they require, and tending to patients that require light care. If necessary, they can stand in for regular Medical Doctor duties;

Surgeons are expected to fulfill the duties of regular Medical Doctors if there are no active Surgical Procedures undergoing;

Medical Doctors must ensure there is at least one (1) Defibrillator available for use, at all times, next to or near the Cryotubes;

Medical Doctors must maintain the entirety of Medbay in an hygienic state. This includes, but is not limited to, cleaning organic residue, fluids and corpses;

Medical Doctors must place all corpses inside body bags. If there is an assigned Coroner, the Morgue Trays must be correctly tagged;

Medical Doctors must, together with Geneticists and Chemists, make sure that Cloning is stocked with Biomass. In addition, Medical Doctors must make sure that the Morgue does not contain cloneable corpses;

Medical Doctors must certify that all cloned personnel are put in the Cryotubes after Cloning, and receive either a dose of Mutadone or a Clean SE Injector, in addition to Mannitol. An exception is made if the Cloning Pod was fully upgraded by Science;

Medical Doctors are not permitted to leave Medbay to perform recreational activities if there are unattended patients requiring treatment;

Medical Doctors must stabilize patients before delivering them to Surgery. If the patient presents Internal Bleeding, they are to be rushed to Surgery post haste

 

 

Chemist:

 

 

1. The Chemist is not permitted to experiment with explosive mixtures;

2. The Chemist is not permitted to experiment with poisonous mixtures and/or narcotics;

The Chemist is not permitted to experiment with Life or other Omnizine-derived mixtures apart from Omnizine or Strange Reagent;

The Chemist is not permitted to produce alcoholic beverages;

The Chemist must ensure that the Medical Fridge is stocked with at least enough medication to handle Brute, Burn, Respiratory, Toxic and Brain damage. Failure to follow this Guideline within thirty (30) minutes is to be considered a breach of Standard Operating Procedure;

The Chemist is not allowed to leave Chemistry unattended if the Medical Fridge is devoid of Medication, except in such a case as Chemistry is unusable or if Fungus needs to be collected

 

 

Virologist:

 

 

1. The Virologist must always wear adequate protection (such as a Biosuit and Internals for Airborne Viruses) when handling infected personnel and Test Animals. Exception is made for IPC Virologists, for obvious reasons;

2. The Virologist must only test viral samples on the provided Test Animals. Said Test Animals are to be maintained inside their pen, and disposed of via Virology's Disposals Chutes if dead, to prevent possible contamination. In addition, the Virologist may not, under any circumstances whatsoever, leave Virology while infected by a Viral Pathogen that spreads by Contact or Airborne means, unless permitted by the Chief Medical Officer;

The Virologist may not, under any circumstance whatsoever, release an active virus without prior consent from Chief Medical Officer. Contact and/or Airborne viruses may only be released with consent from the Chief Medical officer and Captain. In the event a Contact and/or Airborne virus is released, the crew must be informed, and antibodies should be ready for any personnel that chooses to opt out of being infected;

The Virologist must ensure that all Viral Samples, infected Blood Samples and Backup Disks with negative symptoms be kept on their person at all times, or at the very least in a secure location (such as the Virology Fridge);

All visitors to Virology must be warned if there is an active Airborne/Contact Viral Pathogen being tested. This includes Medical Personnel;

The Virologist must work together with the Chemist in order to have Radium samples on their person, or in Virology, at all times;

In the event of a Viral Outbreak, the Virologist must take a sample of viral blood and analyze the viral element. If it is non-lethal, standard procedure with animal testing is to be followed. If it is lethal, the Virologist is permitted to inject an infected crewmember with Radium in order to quickly harvest Antibodies;

In the event of a lethal Viral Outbreak, the Virologist must work together with the Chief Medical Officer and/or Chemists to produce a cure. Failure to keep casualties down to, at most, 25% of the station's crew is to be considered a breach of Standard Operating Procedure for everyone involved

 

 

Paramedic:

 

 

1. The Paramedic is not permitted to perform Field Surgery unless there are no available Medical Doctors or the Operating Rooms are unusable;

2. The Paramedic is permitted to perform Surgical Procedures inside an Operating Room. However, Doctors/Surgeons should take precedence;

The Paramedic is fully permitted to carry a Defibrillator on their person at all times, provided they leave at least one (1) Defibrillator for use in Medbay;

The Paramedic must stabilize all patients before bringing them to the Medical Bay. If the patient presents with Internal Bleeding, they are to be rushed to Surgery post haste;

In such a case as a patient is found dead, and cannot be brought back via Defibrillation, the Paramedic must ensure that said patient is brought to Cloning, and Medbay is notified;

The Paramedic must carry, at all times, enough materials to provide for adequate first aid of all Major Injury Types (Brute, Burn, Toxic, Respiratory and Brain)

 

 

Psychiatrist:

 

 

1. The Psychiatrist may perform a full psychological evaluation on anyone, along with any potential treatment, provided the person in question seeks them out;

2. The Psychiatrist may not force someone to receive therapy if the person does not want it. Exception is made for violent criminals, if the Head of Security or Magistrate orders it;

The Psychiatrist is not permitted to administer any medication without consent from their patient;

The Psychiatrist is not permitted to muzzle or straightjacket anyone without express permission from the Chief Medical Officer or Head of Security. An exception is made for violent and/or out of control patients;

The Psychiatrist may recommend a patient's demotion if they find their psychological condition to be unfit;

The Psychiatrist may request to consult prisoners in Permanent Imprisonment. This must happen inside the Brig, preferably inside the Permabrig, and only with Warden and/or Head of Security authorization. This should be done under the supervision of a member of Security with Permabrig access

 

 

Surgery:

 

 

1. Attending Surgeon must use Latex/Nitrile gloves in order to prevent infection. Though not mandatory, a Sterile Mask is recommended;

2. Attending Surgeon is to keep the Operating Room in an hygienic condition at all times, again, to prevent infection;

Attending Surgeon is to wash his/her hands between different patients, again, to prevent infection;

Attending Surgeon is to use either Anesthetics or Sedatives (for species that cannot breathe Anesthetics) during Surgical Procedures. Exception is made if the patient requests otherwise;

Attending Surgeon is not to remove any legal Implants (such as Loyalty or Tracking Implants) from the patient, unless requested by Security;

If a patient requests that a lost limb be replaced with an organic, rather than mechanical, substitute, said limb must be harvested from a compatible humanized Test Animal (such as Monkeys for Humans, or Farwas for Tajarans). Exception is made if the patient deliberately requests otherwise;

Attending Surgeon is not to bring any of the Surgical Tools outside of their respective Operating Room, and must in fact ensure the Operating Room maintains its proper inventory. This includes ensuring that the Anesthetics Equipment be kept inside the OR

 

 

Viral Outbreak Procedures: A Viral Outbreak is defined as a situation where a Viral Pathogen has infected a significant portion of the crew (>10%)

 

 

1. All Medbay personnel are to contribute in fighting the outbreak if there are no other critical patients requiring assistance. Eliminating the Viral Threat becomes number one priority;

2. Personnel are to be informed of known symptoms, and directed to Medbay immediately if they are suffering from them;

All infected personnel are to be confined to either an Isolated Room, or Virology;

A blood sample is to be taken from an infected person, for study;

If any infected personnel attempt to leave containment, Medbay Quarantine is to be initiated immediately, and only lifted when more patients need to be admitted, or the Viral Outbreak is over;

A single infected person may volunteer to receive a dose of Radium in order to develop Antibodies. Radium must not be administered without consent. Otherwise, animal testing is to be conducted in order to obtain Antibodies;

Once Antibodies are produced, they are to be diluted, then handed out to all infected personnel. Injecting infected personnel with Radium after Antibodies have been extracted is forbidden. In the event of a large enough crisis, directly injecting blood with the relevant Antibodies is permissible;

Viral Pathogen should be cataloged and analyzed, in case any stray cases remained untreated;

Cured personnel should have a sample of their blood removed for the purpose of creating antibodies, until there are no infected personnel left;

In case the Viral Pathogen leads to fluid leakage, cleaning these fluids is to be considered top priority;

Once the Viral Outbreak is over, all personnel are to return to regular duties

 

 

Coroner Procedures:

 

 

1. For the sake of hygiene, the Coroner should wear a Sterile Mask when handling corpses;

2. The Coroner must inject/apply Formaldehyde to all corpses, and place them in body bags;

The Coroner must perform a full autopsy on all corpses, and keep a record of it, in written format. If foul play is suspected, Security must be contacted;

The Coroner must correctly tag the Morgue Trays in order to identify the corpse within, as well as Cause of Death;

The Coroner must ensure Security-based DNR Notices (such as executed personnel, for instance) are respected;

The Coroner must ensure that every ID from unclonable bodies is delivered to either the relevant Head of Staff, or the Head of Personnel. This applies to any Medbay personnel placing a body in the Morgue

 

 

Ladies and Gents, may the discussion commence.

 

Edited February 28, 2016 by Guest

[Vivalas]

Chemist-7 and Virologist-8 both seem a bit intense, perhaps extend them by 10 minutes each?

[Keroman]

 

I'll likely leave this one for people more well versed in the various tasks of Medbay.

 

The one thing I'd like to ask about is:

The Virologist must maintain Radium samples on their person, or in Virology, at all times;

 

Virology doesn't start with any Radium. There's not always going to be a Chemist around to make it for them, and a lot of times the CMO is very busy at shift start.

 

Honestly I feel like Virology should start with a beaker of Radium, but I know that there's been several suggestion threads where people have expressed that the use of Radium for curing viruses should be changed.

 

[TullyBBurnalot]

 

Chemist-7 and Virologist-8 both seem a bit intense, perhaps extend them by 10 minutes each?

 

I'll extend Chemist-7. However, I must maintain that unless the Chemist has a very good reason, they have no business not being in Chemistry if the Fridge is empty. That's their entire job description.

 

[Crazylemon]

 

Attending Surgeon is to wash the Surgical Tools whenever they require sterilization, again, to prevent infection;

Right now, as it stands, the only thing governing getting an infection in surgery is how dirty the surgeon's hands/gloves are - there don't exist mechanisms to transfer germs to operating tools or other such contagion vectors. Should I tweak this so that you'll need to keep the tools clean?

 

In addition, the bit about "stabilizing patients before surgery" - should there be some clause regarding internal bleeding there? Seeing as that can't normally be stabilized without surgery, that might seem fit to be regarded as an exception there.

 

Furthermore, there should probably be a clause for medical doctors that are treating patients with large, bulky equipment that's incompatible with the cryotubes (think hardsuits), that they should ensure that such equipment is not stolen while the patient is being treated. And perhaps, something similar for personell that are being cloned?

 

[TullyBBurnalot]

 

-snip about Radium-

 

I do agree Virology should start with Radium, as it's essential for them. That said... it's essential. They should still carry it around, and if there are no Chemists, you can easily ask the CMO/AI to open the door.

 

Right now, as it stands, the only thing governing getting an infection in surgery is how dirty the surgeon's hands/gloves are - there don't exist mechanisms to transfer germs to operating tools or other such contagion vectors. Should I tweak this so that you'll need to keep the tools clean?

 

I was unsure if the tools themselves spread infection. If you wish to present a PR for it, feel free to do so, but as it stands, I guess I'll be removing that bit.

 

In addition, the bit about "stabilizing patients before surgery" - should there be some clause regarding internal bleeding there? Seeing as that can't normally be stabilized without surgery, that might seem fit to be regarded as an exception there.

 

I'll whip something up, good catch.

 

Furthermore, there should probably be a clause for medical doctors that are treating patients with large, bulky equipment that's incompatible with the cryotubes (think hardsuits), that they should ensure that such equipment is not stolen while the patient is being treated. And perhaps, something similar for personell that are being cloned?

 

I'll whip something up as well!

 

[Knightedskull]

Dang, lemon beat em to it. Anyways, am thinking it make sense to have people lock their equipment lockers. Kinda tired of people leaving them open or unlocked for people to quickly nab items.

[TullyBBurnalot]

That'll be something for General SOP, seeing as it affects every department.

[PPI]

 

Is this a joke??

Cause it looks like one, this is far to over the top, it looks like one that is not meant to follow, because there is so much.

This needs to be simplified, especially considering the low-rp of the station, something like this could, be fine on high rp, but even then.

RP in medical is an if else thing, if it's calm, and nobody gonna die horrendusly, then yeah, lots of rp is fine, when when loads of people are dying, or hurt, then you skip rp, cause your job as medical is to get other players into play again.

Lets list up whats good.

CMO:

1-4. Super silly, since harmfull is subjective, i.e viruses are harmfull because higher temperature, so some things are lethal to certain species, but not others. The rest is kinda irrelevant.

5. Should make sure clonable corpses are cloned, as the CMO it's not always you got a full medbay team, or that you even got the time to check who is dying, your job is basically maintain medbay.

6. kinda silly, cause carrying a harmfull chemical weapon is illegal, irrelevant of who you are.

7. This should be a general medbay rule.

MD:

1. already in SOP

2. Running of with defibs is bad, carrying them while in medbay, taking care of incoming dead people is fine, it's not like defibs are a finite resource either.

3. This is the janitors job

4. Marking body bads and morgue trays should not be something you must do, body bagging a dead body seems obvious, thus silly.

5. This sounds like a many chefs in the kitchen make a huge mess, if you are in medical and see a lack of mass, then you get more, not something that should be forced, since defibs are a thing.

6. What?????? Clean SE after cloning if there is a need, cryo if there is a need, or for hyper cloning

7. This is dumb, because "MEDICAL TO CARGO" oh no he left medbay, ding dong fire his ass, this will happen, thus lets make sure it can't.

8. again, obvious, and not needed, i mean this is more a what is your job procedure at this point.

Chemist:

1-2. What? Chemist makes medical stuff, chemical researchers make toxins and explosives and other fun stuff.

3. Again silly, because in generall it is the HoS who is asking for it, or the warden, and honestly, there is no reason to get permission for such.

4. see 1-2.

5. see 4.

6. Again this is something science should provide, especially to robotics.

7. No, this was pretty good untill the 20 minute part, just no. No. No.

8. Why should he leave at all when he has yet to do his job?

Virologist:

1. Should wear it whenever in virology, irrelevant of anything.

2. Trying to hard to describe em, they are monkies, irrelevant of species, even then they often needs to be humanized. Other then that, its fine.

3. Considering most of the waste is vials and such with blood, this seems like a silly idea to throw way vials, or even beakers with blood, destroy the samples instead.

4. Again obvious, so he knows what it even is.

5. This is fine, not sure about the antibodies, since if the virus got longevity, antibodies would be a 'harmfull' substance. Making a cure is generally good because diona.

6. Seems fairly obvious, but is fine.

7. Do your job?

8. bad, timers are bad.

Paramedic:

1. should not need to unless emergency

2. should not need to, no access.

3. why do they need a permit?

4. Or make sure the patient just, does not die before coming to medbay???

5. Not the job of the paramedic, bring bodies to medbay, bam.

6. Or just leave it for the doctors.

7. Do your job?

Surger:

1. Wear gloves to prevent infection, cause infection means more work for you.

2. Clean room or not does nothing for infections.

3. not needed, wash between patients, and don't waste time.

4. when it's bloody wash it, if it's bloody at all, you did your job wrong.

5. This is fine as it, but a bit long winded.

6. remove if asked to, its not your job to play security, if you dont do it, they will probably ghetto ssurgery it, and thus end up back at your table because infections.

7. Very good.

 

Making it to specific is bad, also breaking SOP is not a crime at all.

 

TL;DR

Make it simple and less repeating, short and easy to remember, this is supposed to be a GAME, remember.

Describe general responsibilties, and things you should not do, like running of with important medical stuff.

 

[pinatacolada]

 

Brig phys needs a medical SoP too.

 

Mannitol after cloning.

 

In general, it also doesn't cover the usual case in viral outbreaks, where it's a medical doctor that first gets the cure. What I propose is for something along this lines:

 

• doctor/nurse/whatever identifies a patient with an unknown virus

• immediately move patient to isolation

take blood sample from patient (the full syringe, 15u), and deliver it to virologist

virologist does his thing with infected blood sample

meanwhile, and if agreed, doctor administers radium, and when cured, takes another blood sample, and delivers it to the virologist

virologist does the antibody thing, and when done, he is to deliver a full beaker of water infused antibodies (or equivalent, buckets are great) to the chemistry fridge. Beaker must be labeled and stuff.

Chemist or CMO then should then ideally make pills of the cure solution.

 

 

Curing people with radium while a cure is available should be frown upon I think

 

Oh, also, coroners:

 

[*]Coroners should administer Formaldehyde to corpses.

[*]Coroners should perform autopsies, and keep them in their locker. If they believe there was foul play in the cause of death, they are to alert security.

 

[TullyBBurnalot]

 

1-4. Super silly, since harmfull is subjective, i.e viruses are harmfull because higher temperature, so some things are lethal to certain species, but not others. The rest is kinda irrelevant.

 

I fail to see how "harmful" is subjective. In fact:

 

causing or capable of causing damage or harm

 

In addition, Syringe Guns can be used for a wide variety of bad shit, and AFAIK trigger Beepsky's Weapons Permit alarm.

 

In addition, Defibs are valuable and need to be accounted for. Can't have people running around willy-nilly with them.

 

In addition, any Chief Medical Officer who doesn't keep full track of what a virus does and just goes on what the Virologist says it does, deserves to get sacked. Viruses can wreak merry havoc on the crew.

 

5. Should make sure clonable corpses are cloned, as the CMO it's not always you got a full medbay team, or that you even got the time to check who is dying, your job is basically maintain medbay.

 

And part of that job is making sure Cloning is working. Take literally 5 seconds to check the morgue, or check the cloner. Or get your employees to do it for you. That's the point.

 

6. kinda silly, cause carrying a harmfull chemical weapon is illegal, irrelevant of who you are.

 

That I agree. Striking.

 

7. This should be a general medbay rule.

 

Also agree. Striking and noting down for posterity.

 

1. already in SOP

 

A SOP which is gonna get renewed anyway. Which is the whole point of this.

 

2. Running of with defibs is bad, carrying them while in medbay, taking care of incoming dead people is fine, it's not like defibs are a finite resource either.

 

And then no one knows where the defibs are. Keeping them somewhere where everyone can get them is kinda vital and can spell the difference between defibbing someone, or getting in line for cloning.

 

3. This is the janitors job

 

Medical is given a bar of soap and fucktons of Space Cleaner for a reason. The Janitor has the entire station to clean, yes, but that does not mean Medbay should just leave everything covered in blood and vomit. Not to mention, you can still call the Janitor. The Guideline calls for Medbay to be clean. How you go about doing that is up to you.

 

4. Marking body bads and morgue trays should not be something you must do, body bagging a dead body seems obvious, thus silly.

 

And yet I see random corpses strewn about, naked, with no body bags in sight, every shift. Yes, it is obvious. Doesn't mean it doesn't need some enforcing.

 

since defibs are a thing.

 

So is too much tissue damage or heart beyond repair. Or Vox and slimes. Not all dead people arrive to Medbay in a cloneable condition.

 

What?????? Clean SE after cloning if there is a need, cryo if there is a need, or for hyper cloning

 

That entire Guideline boils down to "Poot clones into Cryo, give Mutadone/Clean SE".

 

7. This is dumb, because "MEDICAL TO CARGO" oh no he left medbay, ding dong fire his ass, this will happen, thus lets make sure it can't.

 

Actually a good point. I'll clarify that they shouldn't leave Medbay unnatended to do non-important stuff (like getting drunk in the bar).

 

8. again, obvious, and not needed, i mean this is more a what is your job procedure at this point.

 

SOP is job procedure. This is here so people don't go "Lol poot in cryo" and just forget people in it. Patients with internal bleeding suffer from this daily, and not only is it annoying as hell for competent surgeons, it's annoying as hell for the actual patient too.

 

1-2. What? Chemist makes medical stuff, chemical researchers make toxins and explosives and other fun stuff.

 

And yet, Chemistry blows up literally every other shift. Actually, I'll remove the permission thing and just make it "don't do this ever. period"

 

3. Again silly, because in generall it is the HoS who is asking for it, or the warden, and honestly, there is no reason to get permission for such.

 

Actually a good point. It's redundant, and shall be stricken.

 

4. see 1-2.

 

Omnizine and Strange Reagent have a very valid application in Medbay. That said, I'll specify that only the good stuff can be made, and not the wildcard that is Life.

 

5. see 4.

 

Stricken as well.

 

6. Again this is something science should provide, especially to robotics.

 

True, but Chemistry is still a faster alternative, especially when Science is being all "independent nation-state" again. That said, upon inspection, I believe this falls under the "common sense" category, so I think I'll just strike it as well.

 

7. No, this was pretty good untill the 20 minute part, just no. No. No.

 

It's 30 minutes now. And if you can't make even the most basic of medicine for Medbay to use 1/4 into the shift, especially when you have two Chemists, then there's a massive problem and the problem isn't Medbay. The CMO shouldn't have to be babysitting Chemistry to make sure they're not just making Meth or Crank.

 

8. Why should he leave at all when he has yet to do his job?

 

Have you seen Chemistry operate? This happens on a shift-by-shift basis. Frankly, it's my (and many others') gripe with the damn Chemists to begin with. In fact, the single most frequent thing I've heard in months of playing Medbay is:

 

"Where are the fucking Chemists?"

 

1. Should wear it whenever in virology, irrelevant of anything.

 

And yet, so many don't, and die horribly. Frankly, I'm surprised, but this is something that really, really, really should be stressed.

 

2. Trying to hard to describe em, they are monkies, irrelevant of species, even then they often needs to be humanized. Other then that, its fine.

 

To be honest, I don't know what to call them, really. Test animals? I mean, they're not all monkeys, some strains of virus affect some type of animals, and others don't (praise RNG). Guess I'll change that to Test Animals, seems better.

 

3. Considering most of the waste is vials and such with blood, this seems like a silly idea to throw way vials, or even beakers with blood, destroy the samples instead.

 

Redundant. Has been stricken.

 

4. Again obvious, so he knows what it even is.

 

See above.

 

5. This is fine, not sure about the antibodies, since if the virus got longevity, antibodies would be a 'harmfull' substance. Making a cure is generally good because diona.

 

Mostly in a just in case scenario. Depending on RNG, those antibodies may in fact be very useful for other diseases or on the very off-chance the disease mutates. Better safe than sorry.

 

8. bad, timers are bad.

 

Actually, that gave me an idea. Rather than:

 

In the event of a Viral Outbreak, the Virologist failing to produce Antibodies within ten (10) minutes of collecting the initial viral sample is to be considered a breach of Standard Operating Procedure

 

I'll put in:

 

In the event of a lethal Viral Outbreak, the Virologist failing to produce Antibodies before the first casualty is to be considered a breach of Standard Operating Procedure

 

1. should not need to unless emergency

 

Ghetto Surgery will feck you up. Paramedics should really be attempting to bring people to Medbay rather than being a Medbay.

 

2. should not need to, no access.

 

AI can open the doors. Not to mention, there may be a backlog and/or shortage of doctors, so there's that.

 

3. why do they need a permit?

 

'Twas in relation to the above similar point with MDs. Paramedics are one of the few people that have a legitimate reason to go around with a defib on them at all times regardless of circumstances. And it's not a permit, it's just saying "yes, you can have this".

 

4. Or make sure the patient just, does not die before coming to medbay???

 

That's literally what the Guideline is.

 

5. Not the job of the paramedic, bring bodies to medbay, bam.

 

While I disagree in some specific circumstances, I can agree in general. Will change it so it has them dump the bodies near Cloning and notifying Medbay.

 

6. Or just leave it for the doctors.

 

See above.

 

7. Do your job?

 

Precisely the point of the Guideline.

 

2. Clean room or not does nothing for infections.

 

I may actually be wrong here, but does wallowing in blood with open wounds not affect infection rate, at all? If it does not, I stand corrected, but the Operating Room really should not be covered in blood everywhere. Each OR has a bottle of Space Cleaner for a reason. Not to mention, potential Contact viruses.

 

3. not needed, wash between patients, and don't waste time.

 

That was actually the point. I'll rewrite it so it's clearer.

 

4. when it's bloody wash it, if it's bloody at all, you did your job wrong.

 

Already removed.

 

5. This is fine as it, but a bit long winded.

 

I'll cut off after "patient requests otherwise", as the rest is not needed.

 

6. remove if asked to, its not your job to play security, if you dont do it, they will probably ghetto ssurgery it, and thus end up back at your table because infections.

 

If someone was given a Loyalty, Tracking, Chemical or Death Alarm Implant, there is a very good reason why it's there, and it should not be removed. Otherwise, a criminal can just walk up to an OR, go "I want this tracker removed", you'd do it, and then it'd be fine. It isn't.

 

Making it to specific is bad, also breaking SOP is not a crime at all.

 

I never said breaking SOP was a crime. In fact, I do not want breaking SOP to be criminalized, that's a ridiculous notion.

 

Making it specific is... kinda required? Every job on the station has very specific responsibilities they need to attend to.

 

Make it simple and less repeating, short and easy to remember, this is supposed to be a GAME, remember.

Describe general responsibilties, and things you should not do, like running of with important medical stuff.

 

The whole problem with the old SOP was that it was generalistic. So you'd end up with a bunch of nebulous guidelines and things you maybe sorta shouldn't maybe should do, that anyone could go around legalising, and depended entirely on unspoken agreements.

 

Most of what was written down was, essentially, stuff that people are already down, or stuff that people should be doing. It's just formalized so you can point at it and go "See, here it is". It's not meant to affect gameplay by any significant margin.

 

[TullyBBurnalot]

 

Brig phys needs a medical SoP too.

 

I'd rather not saddle the Brig Phys with two distinct Job SOPs. Just have them follow MD SOP, that's basically what they are.

 

Mannitol after cloning.

 

Will add that.

 

-snip about Viral Outbreaks-

 

I was actually going to do that in General SOP, but now that you brought it up, I'm guessing having that included in Medical SOP is actually a good point.

 

Coroners should administer Formaldehyde to corpses.

Coroners should perform autopsies, and keep them in their locker. If they believe there was foul play in the cause of death, they are to alert security.

 

I'll, uh, bang something up.

 

[SkyPing]

 

The Chemist is not allowed to leave Chemistry if the Medical Fridge is devoid of Medication, except in such a case as Chemistry is unusable or if Fungus needs to be collected

 

That might be a BIT too strict considering how reliant chemistry is on obtaining buckets.

 

The first thing that reliable chemists do is LEAVE chemistry to get them buckets.

 

For the rest I'll look over later to make comments on, I sorta skimmed this, but so far things look vary noice.

 

[TullyBBurnalot]

I'll swap it so it reads "leave Chemistry unnatended"

[DisreputableSquid]

Seeing as how I havent seen it here yet, is the geneticist SoP going to only be in the Science side? This seems a bit awkward, as they are still a medical job, and are the ones who are SUPPOSED to be running cloning

[TullyBBurnalot]

Their "Science" SOP still had some Guidelines pertaining to Medical. No need to repeat them.

[alexpkeaton]

 

Regarding Virology:

 

 

• The virologist shall make any intended viral release inject only.

Any intended viral release that is spread by contact or airborne must be approved by the Captain AND the CMO and announced to all heads.

The virologist shall not leave virology's quarantined lab if infected with a unknown or harmful virus, or a beneficial virus that is spread by contact or airborne, unless they have the CMO's consent.

Approved viruses shall not be distributed to another person without consent unless authorized in advance by the Captain.

 

 

[Knightedskull]

Kinda can't spread an airborne with consent, even if the crew were aware.