NTSAM Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 The Hunger system exists only to be a bitch in the side of everyone because kek food. I don't know about you but I don't start groaning and slugging along due to starvation in the span of two hours. I recommend stripping it and adding different mechanics to Nutrition. I have some ideas: 1) Make nutrition slightly help out your disease resistance because immune system stuff. (Don't make them replace vaccines, just give it like the slightest bonus.) 2) Make nutrition help your healing rate by a tiny bit. (Again. Of course don't make them The Magnificent Medbay Replacement, this stuff only helps bruises and small burns, maybe.) 3) Make nutrition slightly speed you up while it's in your body. (As in just make them a step or two faster than Bobtide so they can't whirl by but can sprint up for some 15-20 seconds.) Even if these advantages would have be tiny af, keep in mind most bar drinks do absolutely jack shit (In fact, they harm more than they help) and people drink them all the time, so refrain from using "But then there's absolutely no reason to have food in the code!! D:" because by that logic we should just nuke the bar and drink machines from everything. If you have any other ideas please list them below. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kluys Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 Except for point 1 - Nutrition already helps you heal in certain cases. - Point 3 is void by the fact that it wouldn't change anything. Eating to become faster than others is the same as eating to not become slower than others. And trust me I know we don't go for realism but I don't think drinking should become a healthy thing to do. Besides, drinks like tea do do beneficial stuff. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted February 16, 2016 Author Posted February 16, 2016 I never said that we should touch drinking, I said that if Hunger is made to do nothing it'd just be one of those elements like drinking where you just do it to do it. (And if you do it too much, you often get fucked over.) And some foods, iirc, have their own effects as well, also like drinks. And the boost duration I had in mind was pretty small and slow/ Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saywat_the_15th Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 -1, just grab some 4noraisins from the vendor and you are all good. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauka Usanake Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 do do I'm so mature. I think the hunger system is fine as it is. Don't give it any changes, just modify things around it like the food and drinks themselves. Those don't even need any edits I want to say but I wouldn't know for that case Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 So basically make the botany, kitchen and bar completely redundant, is how I'm reading this. No thanks. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted February 16, 2016 Author Posted February 16, 2016 The bar is already redundant, but people use it anyway. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 How dare you call my high-efficiency vomit machine redundant! D: Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannhawk Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 The bar is already redundant, but people use it anyway. OBJECTION! As a slime person that drinks 1000u of non-alcoholic liquids at a minimum per shift, i can confirm that they do give nutrition and i will never need to visit a vending machine again for the rest of the round if i manage to drink around 600u, provided nobody hits me with lipolicide. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 So basically make the botany, kitchen and bar completely redundant, is how I'm reading this. No thanks. Botany, bar, and kitchen are already useless. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamania Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 -1, this is a bad idea, sorry. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTSAM Posted February 17, 2016 Author Posted February 17, 2016 I really don't see why it's bad. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbdumn5 Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 -1 Simply because I enjoy how we have it now, as well as having the crew appreciate good chefs because they need to stop in every now and then. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexpkeaton Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 A for effort, NTSAM. I don't think this pull of Suggestions slots hit the jackpot, though. I don't like dunking on suggestions because I have enough bad ideas as it is. But it makes that rare good idea all the sweeter. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 Dumb -1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseIncarnate Posted February 17, 2016 Posted February 17, 2016 I don't see a reason to remove nutrition. If anything, it should be expanded, not reduced. Nutritional reagents (protein, plant-matter, nutriment) all have chances to heal damage when metabolized, so eating is beneficial for more than just keeping speed up. If we removed hunger, there would be pretty much zero need for half the vendors or the chef role outside of pure roleplay. And based on the average time someone signs up and actually plays as a librarian or psychiatrist, high/pure roleplay positions tend to be only taken by those who are unaware of the role or intend to completely ignore it anyways. Obviously this is not always the case, but the vast majority of the time it is. Chef would join the ranks of librarians in terms of a role that can produce something that is entirely unnecessary for operation should hunger be removed. Botanists would see a hit to their usefulness, but they would manage to remain relevant due to their ability to produce chemicals and other resources. A more meaningful hunger system would make the chef a more contributing role, but then comes the careful balancing act of making sure he doesn't become a VITAL role. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keilden Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 The Prison Station uses a system where you take damage from hunger if I recall. Add that instead to make food better. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProperPants Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 A more meaningful hunger system would make the chef a more contributing role, but then comes the careful balancing act of making sure he doesn't become a VITAL role. Why shouldn't the chef become a vital role? Eating food is one of the most vital things I can think of. I agree that the hunger system is too insignificant as is, but expanding it would be a good alternative to removing it. Granted the admins and coders can do neither Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexpkeaton Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 A more meaningful hunger system would make the chef a more contributing role, but then comes the careful balancing act of making sure he doesn't become a VITAL role. Why shouldn't the chef become a vital role? Eating food is one of the most vital things I can think of. I agree that the hunger system is too insignificant as is, but expanding it would be a good alternative to removing it. Granted the admins and coders can do neither Certainly vending machines would leave out the possibility of starvation. But if the more difficult chef recipes gave you buffs, that'd be pretty cool. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6735-remove-hunger-system/#findComment-56491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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