Shadeykins Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Courtesy of Regens https://github.com/ParadiseSS13/Paradise/pull/3667 Posting this here so it gets a bit more views/discussion going on about it. Personally I think one of the best ways to balance this weapon out and make it a viable-to-use but not OP weapon would be to make it mildly inaccurate (the burst spreads out at a random trajectory within a cone of 0-20 degrees) and reduce the damage. This would make it a quick, burst weapon capable of effective suppression whilst still being a decent powerhouse in close quarters combat. This change would also serve to reduce it's efficacy against blobs (this weapon unchanged would be a blob killer) by requiring you to either get very close, or be faced with the fact you're spreading damage out across too many tiles to really be effective. The weapon (from a lore perspective based on what Regens presented) seems to operate by rapidly discharging microbatteries and ejecting them once they're spent (hence the casings). Discuss and put forward other ideas! Personally I think we're seriously lacking on laser weapons that can be used in different ways/for different tactics. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6786-laser-carbines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltersam Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 On one hand, I see it as a weapon for turning police officers into a better defence force against large gamemodes like Nuke, it's also used when riots (revs, mutiny.) get out of hand and lethal force may be required. This is when the carbine is truly a suppression weapon, as you put it, and this change would give them the power to disable several people into pain crit at once instead of needing to methodically kill each one of the rioters off. A good change for rev and mutiny because it won't make Sec kill them when carbines are pulled out and burst fire is activated. +1. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6786-laser-carbines/#findComment-57079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlattestGuitar Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I like the idea, but the weapon is VERY powerful when compared to anything else in the sec armaments, so it really shouldn't be made available to normal security. As people put it before, this is at least ERT material. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6786-laser-carbines/#findComment-57082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regen Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I was thinking of changing the damage to 15 instead of 20, reducing the overal damage to 45 instead of 60 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6786-laser-carbines/#findComment-57083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saywat_the_15th Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Toss this to gamma armory or give to ERT. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6786-laser-carbines/#findComment-57095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 I was thinking ERT, and again - multiple laser burst fire with some spread. Lethal only, as a disabler version of this would be ludicrously powerful. All our laser weapons are single target 0 spread weapons save the X-Ray, which is worthless against anything not a blob. Having something with supressive capabilities would be a nice change. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6786-laser-carbines/#findComment-57109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinatacolada Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I think someone said that 'bullet' spread with laser weapons wasn't possible under the current gun code for laser weapons, I could be wrong though Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6786-laser-carbines/#findComment-57121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regen Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I think someone said that 'bullet' spread with laser weapons wasn't possible under the current gun code for laser weapons, I could be wrong though It's actually coded as a projectile weapon that fires lasers Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6786-laser-carbines/#findComment-57133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauka Usanake Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I think someone said that 'bullet' spread with laser weapons wasn't possible under the current gun code for laser weapons, I could be wrong though It's actually coded as a projectile weapon that fires lasers Is that why it has casings? I was wondering about that in the PR Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/6786-laser-carbines/#findComment-57149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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