Psyentific Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 Add Stungloves as a traitor item. Low TC cost, say, 2-3 TC for pairing with Chameleon, C4, Voice Changer, etc. and on par with parapen for inconspicuous incapacitate weapon. Stungloves appear as ordinary gloves on sprites and inspection, they must be removed to reveal their true nature. Stungloves replace punching (ie unarmed harm intent) with a short stun - say, six seconds, just long enough to get cable cuffs on the guy and/or take off his headset. Stungloves have two charges, and can be replenished by screwdrivering the power cell out and inserting a new one. Stungloves are insulated against electricity. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regen Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 Way way too OP A replenishable parapen with the added effect of being being insulated? AND it costs 2-3 TC?! When they were in the codebase they would give you a very nasty shock if you did get shocked by a door, it was considered the only downside, and the only reason to why everyone with gloves didn't get them, this would make it a must-have traitor item for anyone because of how powerful it is. Shit it's like we added a stun baton to traitors for 2 TC, except it's near impossible to see it coming, this plus a chainsaw or an esword and you could just stun + hit the head and kill the entire station with a backpack full of powercells. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
improvedname Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 Make it engineer only and at the same price of powergloves since powergloves still can stun basically Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyentific Posted September 13, 2016 Author Posted September 13, 2016 Make it engineer only and at the same price of powergloves since powergloves still can stun basically But powergloves are already hilariously lethal if you hotwire the power. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
improvedname Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 And this can be a free win card when in combat Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousGlob Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) Make it engineer only and at the same price of powergloves since powergloves still can stun basically But powergloves are already hilariously lethal if you hotwire the power. Yeah except nobody hotwires the engine anymore because it makes APCs spark all over so the problem is immediately fixed making your gloves worthless. Edited September 14, 2016 by Guest Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regen Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Make it engineer only and at the same price of powergloves since powergloves still can stun basically But powergloves are already hilariously lethal if you hotwire the power. Yeah except nobody hotwires the engine anymore because it makes APCs spark all over so the problem is immediately fixed making your gloves worthless. Or just be a wee bit more clever and don't hotwire the tesla, just the singularity alone will not cause arc lighting from APC'S Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidchan Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Yeah you need about 5MW or so last I checked for sparking, keeping the powernet below that means you won't get that lethal. Regular singulo without chilled gas only gets about 2MW at stage 3 stable last I checked. As for the topic of this thread? No. God no. Stun Gloves were cancer, a stun item that couldn't be dropped, disarmed or taken away from a person without first stunning them long enough to strip them, you were better off just cuffing them. Krav gloves are bad enough. Six second stuns are pretty long too for an item with no obvious tell or sprite change that it's about to happen, at least parapens have inhand sprites so you know something is up when they approach. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farya Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Yeah you need about 5MW or so last I checked for sparking, keeping the powernet below that means you won't get that lethal. Regular singulo without chilled gas only gets about 2MW at stage 3 stable last I checked. As for the topic of this thread? No. God no. Stun Gloves were cancer, a stun item that couldn't be dropped, disarmed or taken away from a person without first stunning them long enough to strip them, you were better off just cuffing them. Krav gloves are bad enough. Six second stuns are pretty long too for an item with no obvious tell or sprite change that it's about to happen, at least parapens have inhand sprites so you know something is up when they approach. Or break the legs of your enemy, so he cant stand up... Yeah, I saw stungloves on tc(it have both stungloves and stunprod in code). Even security make them as backup weapon. Thats sick as hell. However admins bwoink people like assistants for making them because bay and because admins see assistants like some kind of gopnics. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
improvedname Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 >complains about stun gloves >doesnt complain aboit krav maga Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farya Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 >complains about stun gloves>doesnt complain aboit krav maga > OP item which is not seen on examine and sprite, can be mass produced, have no warning when readied up > 1 powerful item with unique sprites and give only to warden. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubmcnoob Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 On top of this, the warden gloves are mostly used to deal with unruly individuals in the brig seeing he has to process every different shade of individual that lurks the station. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
improvedname Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Those unique sprite can be dyed with anique crayon Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farya Posted September 15, 2016 Posted September 15, 2016 Those unique sprite can be dyed with anique crayon Its still given to the warden only and everyone knows it. So even if he paints his gloves yo are free to guess that he have one ready on him. And you still get big red warning message when warden prepairs any unique attack with his gloves. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doukan Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 We need less instastunning all round IMO. How about if they cost 4-7 and dealt a decent amount of randomised burn damage (as you'd expect from being electrocuted) and did stamina pain, stick in induced HEAVY slurring and maybe a little brain damage and they'd be a decent stealth combat option without the "i win" factor. If that's not "balanced" enough have them burn out the battery in 3-5 hits and require a wholly new one, or bump up the TC so they're in the same cost tier as the e-bow. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Mann Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 We need less instastunning all round IMO. How about if they cost 4-7 and dealt a decent amount of randomised burn damage (as you'd expect from being electrocuted) and did stamina pain, stick in induced HEAVY slurring and maybe a little brain damage and they'd be a decent stealth combat option without the "i win" factor. If that's not "balanced" enough have them burn out the battery in 3-5 hits and require a wholly new one, or bump up the TC so they're in the same cost tier as the e-bow. Then, it would make them unappealing when you can just whip out the e-bow n esword combo, and texas two step your target into next week. I'd say as much as the power fist, around 8 tc's. But, has a major draw back. Yes, it will retain the colorable thing but at the cost really weak power, meaning it has the power of a standard power cell so, say each uses 1500 power. To balance out as it would start with 7500. So, if my math is correct you end evenly at five uses before they give out. From there you could in theory recharge them but the time would take around 30-60 seconds at least Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doukan Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Then, it would make them unappealing when you can just whip out the e-bow n esword combo, and texas two step your target into next week. I'd say as much as the power fist, around 8 tc's. But, has a major draw back. Yes, it will retain the colorable thing but at the cost really weak power, meaning it has the power of a standard power cell so, say each uses 1500 power. To balance out as it would start with 7500. So, if my math is correct you end evenly at five uses before they give out. From there you could in theory recharge them but the time would take around 30-60 seconds at least See this Maintainers? FAIR AND BALANCED speed merge pls Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
improvedname Posted September 19, 2016 Posted September 19, 2016 Just dk what goonstatiom did Make it insulated gloves only if you try any other gloves you get shocked Add a blue glow to it when charged Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8296-bring-back-stungloves/#findComment-71783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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