Shadeykins Posted November 21, 2016 Posted November 21, 2016 As per subject title. Scale job slots with population. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPK Posted November 22, 2016 Posted November 22, 2016 I see no reason not to have this. Some jobs won't scale very well due to map limitations, but a majority of them will. I'm in favor of just a flat increase of job slots, we hit 120 players pretty frequently and the server needs to change to reflect that. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyet Posted November 22, 2016 Posted November 22, 2016 As soon as the freeze ends, I am going to put up a PR that increases job slots. It will start with jobs which already support many slots (Scientist, Engineer, Medical Doctor, etc) - and thus require little-to-no map changes to support more. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdtwbaj Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Medical doctor can only support 4 doctors due to equipment limitations--medhuds, gloves, etc. Engineer can support up to 6 since there's 6 hardsuits available Scientist is basically limitless Security is limited to 9 due to gear Mining limited to 3(?) not sure if there's more on the outpost. Cargo techs are basically limitless, although ideally 4 should be the max of the max. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinarzad Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Medical doctor can only support 4 doctors due to equipment limitations--medhuds, gloves, etc. Engineer can support up to 6 since there's 6 hardsuits available Scientist is basically limitless Security is limited to 9 due to gear Mining limited to 3(?) not sure if there's more on the outpost. Cargo techs are basically limitless, although ideally 4 should be the max of the max. There's actually I THINK 2 more Mining suits in the storage room (The room north of the Western airlock.) Iknow there's lockers in there anyway, I THOUGHT there was hardsuits too, but tbh I may be misremembering. If I'm not though, you could support up to 5 miners. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farya Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Medical doctor can only support 4 doctors due to equipment limitations--medhuds, gloves, etc. Engineer can support up to 6 since there's 6 hardsuits available Scientist is basically limitless Security is limited to 9 due to gear Mining limited to 3(?) not sure if there's more on the outpost. Cargo techs are basically limitless, although ideally 4 should be the max of the max. There's actually I THINK 2 more Mining suits in the storage room (The room north of the Western airlock.) Iknow there's lockers in there anyway, I THOUGHT there was hardsuits too, but tbh I may be misremembering. If I'm not though, you could support up to 5 miners. There are six miner lockers in total but only three hardsuits. It would not be hard to build second mining EVA on the left side of the outpost near the outpost medbay and put three more hardsuits here. Medical equipment problem might be solved by adding more huds to medbay. Doctors rarely ever take anything from the lockers outside defibs anyway. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley29 Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 While jobs like scientist could have incredibly high slots, such would be impractical as it would make antags such as cults who base themselves there have an even stronger foothold, converting all of science/medbay/engineering is already devastating, giving more slots to these departments could prove problematic for conversion antags, thus I find scaling the requirements for these may also be necessary when adding this. Scaling the amount of thralls the shadowlings need to ascend is already a good step forward, and for cult perhaps it requires nine on the rune and X cultists in the world for it to function, then again that's just my two cents. Don't get me wrong, I am all for getting the greytide out of civilian and actually learning roles to contribute to the server. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NethIafin Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Make a second station. Relocate some jobs onto it. Cyberiad and this small station will have a shuttle going back and forward. Give that place own engineering, security, support and medical. No science. This will also give some ideas for new game modes Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdtwbaj Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Make a second station. Relocate some jobs onto it. Cyberiad and this small station will have a shuttle going back and forward. Give that place own engineering, security, support and medical. No science. This will also give some ideas for new game modes construction site???? Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NethIafin Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 YES I was (and still am) advocating for using ConSite for 2nd station IMAGINE THE FUN! Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeGuy9283 Posted November 24, 2016 Posted November 24, 2016 YESI was (and still am) advocating for using ConSite for 2nd station IMAGINE THE FUN! Has some merit, but the nature of logistics and the Chain of Command would have to change radically. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NethIafin Posted November 24, 2016 Posted November 24, 2016 No shit=) I mostly think about that "substation" as complete "subordinate" for cyberiad. Possibly a newb friendly area Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saywat_the_15th Posted November 24, 2016 Posted November 24, 2016 There's actually I THINK 2 more Mining suits in the storage room (The room north of the Western airlock.) Iknow there's lockers in there anyway, I THOUGHT there was hardsuits too, but tbh I may be misremembering. If I'm not though, you could support up to 5 miners. Those suits were removed for some reason. If the HoP hires new miners now, he has to give them EVA suits. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doukan Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Those suits were removed for some reason. If the HoP hires new miners now, he has to give them EVA suits. The problem with more mining suits is that whenever some conversion antag makes their way to the asteroid it's free EVA for all their buddies, that's why the research outpost lost half it's stuff. There are actually already spare suit scattered around the various little outposts, you just need someone to haul them over for you. Ideally I'd like to see the mostly useless warehouse packed full of semi-randomized spare stuff, like more mining suits. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkjm Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 You could put additionnal mining suits in some kind of secure cargo warehouse, so supply can give them to you. That or simply put 2 more mining hardsuits in EVA, just ask the HoP. Same thing for engineers. Or perhaps the CE has extras in his backroom. Or just add more hardsuits to the normal storage who cares? If antags get there there will only be 1 or 2 left at BEST, since most are taken by the engineers themshelves If it's that big a deal why not scale the amount of suits with amount of players/engineers/miners etc. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiberDark Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Why not have a basic set (2 in engineering) the others have to be bought for credits from cargo. ( Departement money or personal= Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexpkeaton Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Why not allow mining hardsuits to be purchased with vouchers? HoP can be given a few vouchers (I'm not sure, but I think the one that used to spawn in the HoP's locker is gone now). Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-74986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farya Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 You could put additionnal mining suits in some kind of secure cargo warehouse, so supply can give them to you. That or simply put 2 more mining hardsuits in EVA, just ask the HoP. Same thing for engineers. Or perhaps the CE has extras in his backroom. Or just add more hardsuits to the normal storage who cares? If antags get there there will only be 1 or 2 left at BEST, since most are taken by the engineers themshelves If it's that big a deal why not scale the amount of suits with amount of players/engineers/miners etc. There are two spare hardsuits in secure storage in engineering already. And one on the outpost + one spacesuit. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/8760-scale-job-slots/#findComment-75001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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