Love-To-Hug Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Anyone else feel like the setup-and-forget engines need to go away? A lot of servers are ditching the singularity and tesla because they don't really provide any interactivity beyond roundstart and potentially releasing it... and personally, I've never considered a round where either was released to be fun. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZN23X Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) I don't work engineering but I imagine that'd make being an engineer a bit more exciting. Not to mention the possibility of the station running out of power being more than just a random event that knocks out the power and gravity for a set duration of time would be neat. What types of engines are other servers using? Edited March 17, 2017 by ZN23X Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeykins Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Either this or an actual use for all that excess power would be nice. 1 Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox McCloud Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Most engines invariably become set up and forget--even the most "intensive" care engines are usually optimized for low/no maintenance (supermatter) by the players. Mostly because no one wants to sit around doing absolutely nothing but stare at a sprite changing every now and again and pushing a button or two every 10-15 minutes, and nothing more. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James5734 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 4 hours ago, ZN23X said: I don't work engineering but I imagine that'd make being an engineer a bit more exciting. Not to mention the possibility of the station running out of power being more than just a random event that knocks out the power and gravity for a set duration of time would be neat. What types of engines are other servers using? If I recall correctly, most servers have removed the singularity all together and instead use the tesla since its easier and safer to use. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacemanspark Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 2 hours ago, James5734 said: If I recall correctly, most servers have removed the singularity all together and instead use the tesla since its easier and safer to use. That's what we'd like to get away from, ideally. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothangel Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Maybe having some reason to not have too much electricity in the grid would be good. (And I don't mean the APCs arcing, that's at a stupidly high level) Like when the SMES are full; you get power surges because there's too much electricity in the grid. ...I think that's how it'd work realistically, at least. Not sure, I'm not an electrician. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpose2 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Spacemanspark said: That's what we'd like to get away from, ideally. Yup, agreed entirely. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeletalElite Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 If we used an SM people would just optimize it so that it doesn't have to be messed with because no one wants to sit around starting at the SM all shift. I think if we wanted a more interactive engine we would have to code in a completely new engine that needs to be maintained while being able to be monitored without sitting there all shift, ie through PDA, and an automatic radio system that will display when the engine needs to be messed with. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazbot194 Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 I have to say, as someone who had been playing atmos tech last few times I was on the sever, I always tried to set up a heat engine. Even that was a set and forget, I will say though it was fun to make. What if engineering had all, or at least more then two, of the engines but had to set them up completely, IE put the emitters in place too. To compensate for this, the SMEs in engineering would start charged and set up to account for the time it would take to set an engine up. I think that is about the most you can get from engines as all of them are set and forget, or can be made to be. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomanB Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 There's a couple faults with "make the engine more complex/dangerous". One, new folks.You make an engine complex and dangerous, it will get messed up by new folks. Depending on the "danger" level of the engine, this will end a round. How many 5 minute "round's over engine exploded" rounds would you tolerate? Finally roll nukie commander, competent team, getting geared out with a cool gimmick and "Emergency shuttle called: engine's loose again". This leads to my second point: Our engines are fundamentally not dangerous. Non-antag accidents don't end rounds, the admins clean it up, delete Sing/tesla, and round goes on. Make things more complex, you make it more difficult for admins to "fix" accidents, and then, see Point One. Ultimately, the more set and forget an engine is, the more dangerous it should be when it gets loose. Link to comment https://www.paradisestation.org/forum/topic/9753-the-engine/#findComment-81921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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