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During my playtime so far, I have encountered a few frustrations and limitations, most notably while playing as a cyborg.

 

-> When I am playing as a service cyborg, I cannot pick up glasses (drinking glasses) which I can manufacture, on my tray, but I CAN put things like food on there. Basically I cannot 'serve' drinks or clean up after myself. I suggest it would be made possible to 'tray' drinking glasses.

 

Another thing I'd like to ask to be added is some stuff mainly for roleplaying. The service module could be way more valuable if, in addition to be able to serve beer, it would be able to serve water, and/or perhaps softdrinks, such as space cola because often people do not drink alcohol during work which makes me as  servant feel fairly useless at times. Currently we can also serve universal enzyme, but this is fairly useless, except for the chef. 

Perhaps, some kind of snack bowl or other thing, like crisps or whatever could be servable. This would make the service bot a proper servant. Perhaps a trash bag would be nice, too.I know this is a lot to ask for perhaps one cyborg module, but the service module is severely underplayed, and I myself love playing with it. You may have noticed S.E.R.V.A.N.T or Cyberiad-1 going around with refreshments. Other than that I'd like to point out that the shaker, which is currently in the service module's repertoire of items is kind of useless. It would be nice, perhaps, that in one way or another, the service module would be able to use the alcohol/softdrink dispensers at the bar, so as to be able to tend the bar in a bartender's absence.

 

As you can see, these changes are not making things overpowered in any way. I do not know how hard this would be to code, but it would be nice if it were possible. I Imagine the changes would not be that major/difficult. 

 

Please let me know what you think, everyone.

 

 

Signed,

 

 

Vladimir Lukowsky

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This is true, however, the janitorial bot also has a trash bag, and we, as borgs, couldn't do anything harmful on purpose, lest we be blown up. Most we could do is give the ID's to the HoP, original owner, it goes against our laws to harm any human. And, in my book, tampering with an ID in any form is harming the crew member, albeit not physically. Other than that, borgs have all-access, we have no need for an ID. I do however, see your point.

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nother thing I'd like to ask to be added is some stuff mainly for roleplaying. The service module could be way more valuable if, in addition to be able to serve beer, it would be able to serve water, and/or perhaps softdrinks, such as space cola because often people do not drink alcohol during work which makes me as  servant feel fairly useless at times. Currently we can also serve universal enzyme, but this is fairly useless, except for the chef.

 

Empty out your beer bottle and refill it with something else; I believe it will start reproducing that reagent, instead.

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2 minutes ago, Fox McCloud said:
2 minutes ago, Fox McCloud said:

 

 

 

Empty out your beer bottle and refill it with something else; I believe it will start reproducing that reagent, instead.

Empty out your beer bottle and refill it with something else; I believe it will start reproducing that reagent, instead.

Not sure what I did wrong here ^^    (post quoting) but .. what I wanted to say is: This would be nice if it were possible. The thing is, I could, I think, only fill it with water. I cannot fill it with space cola or anything else, since I do not have access to that, as bots have no arms, or any other way to access the booze/soft drink dispensers. Other than that I find this a tad bit unrealistic and I don't see why we couldn't have a seperate water/soft drink synthesizer item. Other modules have a plethora of items in their storage, so we could get a few more in my opinion. But I am going to try what you said.

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Wanted to fix double quote, failed.
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3 hours ago, Vladimir Lukowsky said:

This is true, however, the janitorial bot also has a trash bag, and we, as borgs, couldn't do anything harmful on purpose, lest we be blown up. Most we could do is give the ID's to the HoP, original owner, it goes against our laws to harm any human. And, in my book, tampering with an ID in any form is harming the crew member, albeit not physically. Other than that, borgs have all-access, we have no need for an ID. I do however, see your point.

This is mostly a consideration of the borg's power to have a direct effect on the round/act outside its role. It encroaches on janiborg territory, and allows a borg to nebulously hold potentially important objects which can never be retrieved if the borg is emagged/destroyed/doesn't know how to empty its trash bag.

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This is true. However, the Janiborgs have a trash bag already, and you could argue the same point. It is true, however. 

 

Let's say we don't give the service borg a trash bag, as long as the items which are dispensed, are also able to be put on a plate (as is currently not the case with the drinking glasses, whether full or empty), the items could just be binned in a regular disposal bin.

 

I would like to hear opinions of coders here (if possible) as to if this would be able to be implemented. I think it would open a lot of possibilities. And it wouldn't harm anyone. 

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I have tested an earlier posted theory here, and can confirm that refilling the space beer can with something else (in this case, water) does NOT make it synthesize water instead. This is why we need these improvements. Actual service!

 

Furthermore, here is an example of the plate problem and glasses.  
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the service borg has all of these things already, open the space beer, take out the beer with a dropper, pour water/cola/whatever drink you want synthesized back in with the dropper, and you can now dispense that drink freely. to carry around drinks on your tray, get a piece of food, and put it in the pile of drinks. trays can ONLY pick up food items, and for some reason glass doesn't count, so click on the one piece of food in the drink pile and you can carry all of it. the service borg is also able to mix drinks with its dropper in the shaker, by dispensing bottles from the booze-o-mat and taking fluids out of them. 

maybe some coding to simplify some things, make it easier to pick up glasses with the tray, maybe give it a way to interface with the drink dispensers.

and on a side note, the trash bag is INCREDIBLY powerful for a borg to have. i singlehandedly rescued the AI from a traitor by slipping and bagging the intellicard it was on. 

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Oh wow, that is awesome. I did not know that the DROPPER was the key to changing the sythesized drink. As for the food: If I pick up a random piece of food, can I put an other random drink on it? (not in a pile/related to the pile of the other item)?????    Some functionality with the dispensers would be nice indeed, this would give more purpose to the shaker in the inventory.

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